Upgrade CPU or Video Card?

 
 
 

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Anonymous

upgrade the CPU to FX x8core processor.

Anonymous

Hi i have recently built a PC and am wondering what to upgrade. Currently i have got a :
Sapphire HD 6670
Phenom ii x4 965 BE (3.4GHz)
8GB GDDR3 1333MHz
I am thinking of upgrading either the CPU or the GPU. (If i upgrade the GPU it will be to a Sapphire HD 7850)(If i upgrade the CPU it will be to FX x8 core processor). Which one should i upgrade???

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I currently have:

Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP, 32-bit (Service Pack 3)
DirectX version: 9.0
GPU processor: GeForce 9800 GT (2) SLI
Driver version: 306.81
DirectX support: 10
CUDA Cores: 112
Core clock: 660 MHz
Shader clock: 1650 MHz
Memory data rate: 1800 MHz
Memory interface: 256-bit
Memory: 512 MB
Memory type: GDDR3
Video BIOS version: 62.92.45.00.A4
IRQ: 16
Bus: PCI Express x16
GPU processor: GeForce 9800 GT
Driver version: 306.81
DirectX support: 10
CUDA Cores: 112
Core clock: 660 MHz
Shader clock: 1650 MHz
Memory data rate: 1800 MHz
Memory interface: 256-bit
Memory: 512 MB
Memory type: GDDR3
Video BIOS version: 62.92.45.00.B2
IRQ: 16
Bus: PCI Express x16
Product Name P5N-D

Version 1.XX

BIOS

Vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD

BIOS Version ASUS P5N-D ACPI BIOS Revision 1101

BIOS Release Date 05/18/2009

BIOS ROM Size 1024 KBytes

CPU

Socket Designation Socket 775

Manufacturer Intel

Version Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9400 @ 2.66GHz

Supported Voltage 1.3 v

External Clock 333 MHz

Max Speed 3800 MHz

Current Speed 2500 MHz

Memory

Socket Designation DIMM_A1

Current Speed 800 MHz

Memory Type DDR2

Installed Size 1024 MBytes

Socket Designation DIMM_A2

Current Speed 800 MHz

Memory Type DDR2

Installed Size 1024 MBytes

Socket Designation DIMM_B1

Current Speed 800 MHz

Memory Type DDR2

Installed Size 1024 MBytes

Socket Designation DIMM_B2

Current Speed 800 MHz

Memory Type DDR2

Installed Size 1024 MBytes

I have not updates the drives in year. Can you help me.

thank you,

CC

Anonymous

Hi sir.
I currently have a really old Intel Core2 Q9300 still running DDR2.
and a GTX 560Ti

Would a i7 2600k give me enough bang for the buck to least some years or should I wait a little more and get an ivy bridge?
Keeping the 560Ti for a while I guess, it seems to be holding up alright.

Anonymous

Hi Rodney i have a question about my current system specs.
I feel that i lack some performance even though i have a GTX 580.
I even lag some in windows, i have my OS installed in my SSD
Do you recommend that i upgrade any of theese?

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition, Quad Core, 3,4Ghz, AM3, 8MB, 125W, Boxed
Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3, Socket-AM3+, ATX, 990FX+SB950, DDR3, 4xPCIe(2.0)x16, SLI, SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.0, FW
Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1600MHz 8GB CL8 Kit w/4x 2GB XMS3 modules, CL8-8-8-24, for Core i5 and i7, 1.65V, Intel XMP

MSI GeForce GTX 580 1536MB PhysX

Seagate Barracuda® 7200.12 1TB
OCZ SSD Agility 3 Series 2.5" 90GB

Corsair TX850M 850W PSU

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If you have a good CPU cooler, you can try to overclock your CPU first!

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I feel this topic was directed to me (see http://www.3dgameman.com/forum/hardware/system-bottleneck). lol Thanks!

XFX nForce 780i SLI (LGA 775)
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770 (3.2 GHz, 1600 MHz FSB)
4 x PNY XLR8 DDR2 800 MHz (2 GB, 4-4-4-12)
2 x BFG Tech GeForce GTX 295 (Quad SLI)

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My system is kinda old but still powerful for what I need (gaming at 1680x1050, medium-high settings,FPS around 50).

Anonymous

Hello Rodney,
I have a question, my friend has an AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ it is a dual core processor at 3.1Ghz, motherboard is an Asus M3A socket AM2 and 4Gb of DDR2 at 667Mhz. He has a Sapphire Radeon HD3850 512Mb GDDR3 VRAM as his Graphics Card.. He asked me if he could upgrade something in order to play all the modern games at high settings at resolution of 1280x720. Don´t really know if upgrading the GPU is going to be a good advice cause not sure if the CPU is going to be a bottleneck. What do you think about it? It is better to get a GPU like a Radeon HD6950 or upgrade the whole set of CPU, Motherboard and RAM??
Thanks and always enjoy your videos!

Anonymous

If you had to buy a micro ATX case that is around 100-120$ which one would you buy? The fractal define and arc mini seem interesting, but I'm unsure if there are any other options...

Anonymous

If you think about it. Games aren't that CPU heavy yet. Most high end (enthusiast) CPUs on the market have so much more power than games ask for. GPUs on the other hand are generally a different story. A lot of new games are using most if not all of the current gen graphics technologies (DX11, OGL4.0, advanced physics, etc). You can usually get away with sticking with a CPU that is 2 generations old and still be able to play brand new games on max settings as long as you have the GPU for it.

Anonymous

yeah im on a first gen i3 (OC'd a 540 to 3.45) w/ 8GB Ram and all ive bought since then is an Intel SSD and a EVGA 550 Ti and i can play battlefield 3 at 60 FPS on medium. I was just mad at myself that i didn't know about sandy bridge until after I bought this system, but oh well...I probably won't upgrade CPU's until the next generation, or until I can't play new games anymore

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I would rather ask myself VIDEOCARD or SSD! Only because thats what i know i have to change. I gave my sons pc an ssd and he loads every game 5 times faster than me. So i say ssd, but then i realy need a new video card as well but they are so freekin expensive in this country.A GTX 670 2GB cost me 568,- CAD, i think you get it in Canada for 420??? So im hopeing for the lottery! :-)

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Yep, SSDs are wicked fast for system and game loads.

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Anonymous

I have a Nvidia GTX 480 and a i7-860 Overclocked from 2.8 GHz to 3.25 GHz, what should I upgrade first?

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Yea, go with a video card upgrade first, maybe a 670.

Anonymous

You got a nice CPu I think its your video card would need a change but I not sure 100%, I can tell you what I have and its flawlessly nice!

I got intel 875K @ 3.6 ghz and ram 2000mhz 9-11-9-24 1t ( corsair GT ), motherboard maximus 3 gene and 5870 oc @ 1000 gpu and 1300 mem. I can tell ya ma shit flys every game I play is max graphics.
Maybe the new games that will come out later in 2012 might reduce some little graphics but so far every game I play is maxout!! :P

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I prefer going all out on the cpu, although I have a 3930k and a 7970. I like the extra pci-e lanes of the lga 2011.

Anonymous

Actually, the real way to know if you have to upgrade your CPU or GPU, is to use an actual system monitoring program. Use MSI Afterburner. If the settings you WANT to play on give you 99% GPU usage in the on-screen display, you need to upgrade your GPU. If you are less than 99%, say 50% or so, your CPU is a HUGE bottleneck, and it needs to be upgraded instead. If you know what you're doing, upgrading based on actual in-game performance bottlenecks as evidenced by programs like this are much more useful than saying "oh i have a 3 GHz processor, that can't possibly be the bottleneck." Are you kidding? What if the viewer had a 3 GHz Pentium 4? That's not a bottleneck for BF3? Bad way of saying that.

Anonymous

I have gigabyte g1 x58 i7 950 at stock 3ghz with gtx 580 sli 24 corsair gb do I need over clock my CPU for better GPS?

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Definitely overclocking the CPU. If not happy after that upgrade the GPU,. although the 580 still rocks. And don't forget to overclock the 580 as well.

Anonymous

i have two gtx 580 in sli one msi lighting with oc oready and evga witch is stock what be the easiet way to over cpu to 4ghz

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I currently have:

ASUS Sabertooth P67
Intel Core i7 2700k Sandy Bridge 3.5GHz @ 4GHz
8gb G. Skill Ripjaws X Series
WD Caviar Black 500GB 7200RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s
Thermaltake 850 Watt PSU
PALiT GTX 460 768MB
Noctua NH-D14 CPU cooler

I plan on upgrading my gpu whenever I can afford it. Possibly with a 560 or higher

Anonymous

Man I love you. Keep up the great videos.

~ironsoldier~

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I love you to. Keep watching ;)

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I'm planning on upgrading my video card soon so I can play newer games better.

My current specs.
•AMD FX4100 @3.6GHz
•Gigabyte M68MT-S2 Micro ATX Motherboard
•XFX Core Edition PRO550W PSU
•AMD Radeon HD 6670
•Acer 20" LED Backlight (1600x900)

I'm considering getting a Radeon HD 6870 specifically this. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161396

Any input is appreciated. =)

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Send a bit more and get a 7870 video card since it will future proof your purchase a little more. 6870 still rocks though :)

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That's a bit pricey but I'm sure you suggest it because it's future proof. Two questions.

1.)Is there any worry of a bottleneck with my CPU?

2.) Never mind. Just realized they're all 2GBs. lol But I have always wondered is there a major difference between 1GB/2GB video cards?

Oh forgot my RAM:8GB DDR3 1333

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Oh.. your 1GB and 2GB question. Most high end video cards are 2GB+, but higher video card memory means you can play games at higher resolutions with more eye candy one. I'll try and do a Q&A video on this srince I'm sure other are wondering as well.

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Your core setup isn't the fastest, but it shouldn't bottleneck a new gen video card. Remember, a new gen video card is more future proof and you can always add another down the road. Another upgrade you may want to consider is a SSD. If only money grew on tress, right. LOL

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Yeah I know that's why I was slightly concerned. I can't crossfire on my current setup only have one slot for a graphics card =(. But after I get this card I'll be saving up for a new build one with a stronger foundation gonna take a while but this card will get me through till then.

Thanks for all the help! =)

Anonymous

Before upgrading im getting an ssd. Or better hardware such as a new monitor.

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True, an SSD makes a big difference to overall system performance and certainly to system and game load times, however it's not gonna improved FPS.

Anonymous

Yeah Rodney you R O C K

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I usually do the big upgrades every couple of years if I need to (a year minimum) with smaller ones more frequently.

2007 - AsRock 775i65G, Pentium E2140, 2GB DDR, ATi x1650
2009 - Core2Duo E7500, HD4670
2010 - Gigabyte G41M Combo, 4GB DDR2, HD5670 1GB
2011 (early) - 8GB DDR3 (the G41M Combo supports both DDR2 and DDR3), first 1TB HDD
2011 (late) - Asus M5A97 Pro, 16GB DDR3, Phenom II x6 1090T, HD6770, first Kingston SDDNow V100 65GB
2012 (early) - Mess up two DIMM slots, reverted back to 8GB (extra 8GB as backup)
2012 (April) - XFX HD6870 1GB, Cooler Master Elite 430, Cooler Master TX3 Evo
2012 (May) - Second monitor for dual setup

That's generally how I do upgrades. I've kept spare parts for a possible server or HTPC.

Windows 8 Pro 64-bit|Asus M5A97 R2.0|Phenom II x6 1090T BE 3.5Ghz (OC)|Kingston HyperX Blu 24GB DDR3 1600MHz|Gigabyte HD7950 Windforce 3X 3GB|OCZ Vertex 4 128GB/Seagate Barracuda 2TB|CoolerMaster Elite 430|CoolerMaster TX3 Evo w/ Blade Master fan.

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Interesting history of your upgrades bud :)

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I will always go with the cpu, motherboard, memory and stuff before a video card. video cards change too fast and you can't keep up

Anonymous

Hi Mr Rodney i have a question.

i currently have i7 870 running at stock (2.9Ghz) and a 5770 HD GPU
i am planning to upgrade my GPU to a 6970.
but after some research i think a 7870 is about same price as the 6970 But.
wil 1 of them Bottleneck with the current CPU?

Thanks in advance.

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Go with the HD 7870 video card for now and then upgrade the CPU, motherboard, memory later down the road. I might also recommend that you consider saving a bit more and get a HD 7900 series video card as it would future proof your purchase, however even if you have a HD 7870 you could always add another down the road, so either way you're covered. Just remember to get a future motherboard that capable of crossfire.