Cheating in online games a problem?

Cheating in online games a problem?
 

 
 
 
 

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Anonymous

I hate cheaters, Games NEED the ability to vote people out otherwise it just spoils it for everyone.

Transformers war for cybertron used to be a fun game but its ruined by these idiots..

Anonymous

thats why i don't play black ops online anymore almost every one that plays black ops cheat and i f**king hate that

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Yup I hate it. I ran into it when Rogue Spear was new and exciting and ever since then I don't play Online much if at all. I'd rather spend my money on the Storyline Single player games and have fun w/o some little cheater dork ruining my experience.

I also play games on MySpace and really get annoyed with people that use bots to level up their profiles to beyond credible levels.

What I want to know is, if you HAVE to use a bot or cheat to make the game fun then what is the point of even buying the game and playing? It's not representative(okay maybe it is) of your skill level. I have a 360 and can generally get every achievement accomplished(except the OLine achievements since I don't play online) without even once cheating. See now THERE is accomplishment. If you feel the need to cheat to be a little jerk to people maybe you need to find something else to do with your time. That's just me though.

Anonymous

well i dont like noobs who call me hacker so dont know.

Anonymous

If their was to be some sort of anti hack system, people would just kick there opponents when they get kill. Obviously people want to win in games, but some just takes it the easy way.

Anonymous

The only way to deal with cheaters that actually permanently works is to stab them in the temple with a kitchen knife.

This happened to a guy in Korea who cheated in a tournament btw. Let that be a warning to all cheaters around the globe, it doesn't matter who you are. Someone random might just one day snap and stab your head with a really large knife.

Beyond that and more realistically, the only way to catch cheaters is to have a band of highly skilled players who are capable of determining if a person is indeed using cheats/bots and banning them as they are doing it.

This is where game developers have to change from the traditional relying on anti cheat software to allowing the server admins to spectate players silently and being provided with tools such as reaction/actions per minute time measurements and details of just about anything that any player is doing.
Be it in FPS games where a certain player is shooting people through walls alot, even before he can possibly have seen the other player. Or he is killing people in all directions around him with headshots or shots to the same limb in the blink of an eye.
Game servers need every tool imaginable to raise warning flags (email, RSS, twitter, SMS... you name it) so that a server admin can be on location at the very moment someone is indeed cheating.

Add to that, game accounts need to be coupled to a certain persons hardware ID (a combination of all hardware in the machine) so that should a cheater be banned (through his account) he now also have to change his hardware ID to get a new account up and running.
Even if he just swaps his graphics card or spoofs his MAC-address that new account will be flagged as suspicious and server admins will be notified and they can then decide (and submit reports) on whether the account is a cheater account or not.

Remember, TOOLS used by HUMANS (knifes included) are the best way to catch people cheating. Replays, screenshots, videos and lots of details is essential to keep the quality of the cheat detection system up.

Anonymous

as a css admin i see more raceism than anything els cheating included

Anonymous

as a css admin i see more raceism than anything els cheating included

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online cheating is everywhere especially if the game is popular.

example; for world of warcraft, there are many gold farmers, since blizzard seems to be good at watching over the botters, gold farmers where born. these people play the game for real cash and what they do all day is to farm for gold. these is very popular in china where youll see an office full of computers and kids are getting payed just to play and farm. in my opinion, WoW seems to be the best mmo in all cases though its getting old so i quitted 2 years ago.

for aion online, i think this is the easiest mmo to cheat. download the bot, run and thats it. my friends does this for a long time. you get band easily once you get caught though then youll get sick of the game. i played this game for only a month because there has been too many bots everywhere you go. they are usually on the good grinding spot.

eve online? it gets a little tricky but worthit. doesnt affect the economy of the game if you bot. i think this will be the only mmo that is really fine to use a bot. it also applies on the theme of the game. but dont use those isk for plex. you have to respect ccp.

conculsion, some people cheat and most of them have their reasons, i think it would not make any sense if they make 2 servers. all they need is to be strict and try to find a way on how to catch cheaters. cheaters love to cheat on a server where there are few cheaters. and also, im refering to cheating on a game where what you are doing is not part of the game.
 

and yes, cheating is a big problem for online gaming especially on mmos.

Anonymous

well wot i think on online gaming, there are people who pay for hacks , so its doesnt matter how good is game punkbuster or vac . what should game developer do .... make 2 servers .. in which people can hack and another one really streak ... in which people wont able to hack or cheat even not 0.99 percent.

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Yes very much so. I play BF2  & have a serious problem with TEAM KILLERS, I hate them to the point that put them on my enemies list & hunt them down when ever I can. In BF2 there's it's a major TK issue at the jet spawns, players who don't have flying skills will kill or block your take off & imperil the whole team just because they think all the jets belong to them. It also happens in other situations in BF2 but jets are king in this game. I 'd like to know if you play BF2 but I'd like to hear your opinion on the matter, because ADMINs are not a solution. Keep up the good work.

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i Hate cheaters, its funny when i play online these people suck so bad, that even when they cheat they suck, ( im playing CRYWARS this guy is in the wall and i see him as soon as hes out ill do a headshot lol) its just to funny 

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Anonymous

When it comes to FPS games, I kinda like to play with cheaters who use simple cheats like wallhack. Mostly becuase I get a good feeling when I mange to kill them. But if someone is using something like spinnbot+aimbot I usaly record and get the hell out of there :D

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i like playing with people who cheat because you really get to show off your skills when you end up getting more kills than them (for first person shooters)

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agreed

Anonymous

i am a hardcore FEAR player. i have played to many scrims and spent to many hours playing the game ..but i just can't get enough of it... the problem with cheating as i see it, is that it even is possible. if it wasn't, i and players like me wouldn't find our selfs at the receiving end of all the hackusations.

it is to easy for n00bs to pull out the hackusation card and have elite players booted ..and that is why cheating is ruining the online gaming experience for all elite players -target

Anonymous

My clan runs a few servers. I will be honest, the amount of cheating that is going on and the amount people think is going on are very different. Most people playing PC games are, well, not that good. So when some one a little or a lot better comes around they assume it's cheating. I've been kicked for supposedly cheating in Bad Company 2 a few times. Mostly for sniping some one with the 870 with slug and magnum perks. You can easily out snipe a sniper with that gun, but you need to be pretty good to do it. Things like that make people think there are cheaters in the game. We have banned a few people on our servers. But it's very rare. Most guys that are putting a hurt on are just good players.

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I've seen some hackers using the 870 and hitting me at sniper range. I've tried to produce the same results and have not to this day. In my book it's probably hackers... some times. Whenever I see a Medic at 40/1 with an M60 I get the ban button ready. I'm not going to say I don't have my own good days powning people and getting called a cheater, but there is a point when it's questionable game play. Most of the time it's just uneven playing skills that ruin the game for me. The other day I blow a tank with a grenade and was called out.. lol those noobs. Before that I killed a pilot in a chopper with my handgun, I ran out of sniper bullets. Before that I tracer a guy in the ass running away and rocketed him, killed 3 people. The best is when your squad spawns inside the chopper and gets behind enemy lines to rape the bases none stop. My personal base raping guns are the faster semi-auto shotguns, they make it nice and personal, but the AN-94 is my best long range gunner. The sniper using a shot run is interesting behind enemy lines, you can toss sensors, use c4 on tanks or bases, even use mortar on spawns.

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Anonymous

i cheat whenever i get bored with the game and just wanna see the entire enemy team be blown into sand. In a way i need to cheat to make myself stop playing a game and move on my life, because cheating makes the game boring.

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i resent that by the way   calling ppl nerds and geeks is pretty bad  if you play games  build pc's  then im sry your one to so just drop that crap im a nerd i dont cheat hack  and im not 30 in grandmas basement  in fact im 23 married with 3 kids

Anonymous

I dont understand how, with all of todays incredible counter cheating programs or software that a nerd gamer can still be able to load his game in multiplayer mode, access a server, get in game, cheat and unless a server admin is around to kick/ban that player manually and all this without being detected is beyond me.

All this is a pointless argument as there will always be that geek/4 eyed nerd/30 year old fat male living in grandmas basement screwing it for all of us.

Anonymous

Cheaters improve my skills. Try and kill some cheater. You will find it amusing and satisfied by killing a monster who is stronger and better than you are.

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You know, cheat for a offline game when you already done the Game. Its not a big deal, that's fine or  when you are stuck somewhere. But when its about online games and for me, I talk of mw2.

I quit when a cheater is in the game but before this I just tell to him, Why you play? lol... Really why cheating in online game. Like mw2 he can kill you behind the wall and he don't know you are there (exemple). So the big question is why a cheater will play? I just dont get it XD. Most of the time everybody leave anyway. But a other probleme for online game is the lag. Like 80% of the game I lag and I have a good conection. Sometime I just quit the game for a other just because of the lag...Like FPS game, you need to be quick for kill someone so with the lag you look so bad...anyway.

Cheater why you play online games? lol (sry for my english,this is'nt my main language)

Anonymous

Two games I play that I can't stand people cheating are... Day of Defeat and Counter Strike. Hackers come on with bots that kill anyone within a certain radius while not even looking at you...run fast...see through walls etc...Ruins the entire spirit of competitive game play.

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I dont play DoD much but Counter Strike is going down because of it and its quite irritating =/ well the good shall prevail!

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I really hate who cheat in games, i am admin in some games servers and there is a lot of cheaters, they really make me sick and angry

I mean what's the point of cheating? there is no fun of it, its so annoying, imagine your self if there is some player cheating.

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There are only a few games that I play in which cheating is a real problem. I don't care if someone uses money hacks or stuff for certain items but there are two important ones that annoy me like those guys on the street talking about their special god: God-mode (I try it sometimes in Single-player mode, in really old games like Serious Sam, just for fun, but never in LAN or online - it just get's boring but people don't seem to understand) and my favorite most hated is that Spawn thing that allows someone to place explosive or other deadly or otherwise harmful things in your vicinity or kill you with a knive even though miles away (happened a lot in old Counter-Strike and recently in the Free2Play game WarRock - even heard about youtube videos and ready to go game hacks for everyone).

Often I report them but they just keep coming with new accounts even in games that are not for free.

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MW2 doesnt have PB so cheating is everywhere. and there is NOTHING more aggrivating then getting shot through walls where a normal person would have no clue where i am.

what suprises me though is that me and my clan (|F.U.N.|) sometimes get called cheaters because we have a very high level of skill and teamwork when we play online headquarters together. voice chat helps the most

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It makes me sick that GFWL does not have any dedicated PunkBuster style servers for games like GTA IV. It would make things so much easier to get rid of those who cheat. I prasie EA for allowing Battlefield 2 and BF Bad Company 2 for having PB support.

Anonymous

as soon as i notice that someone is cheating i report it to steam( i only play Cod 6 online).
We recently had little success as a clan on cheating: we all reported one who was cheating, which we know personally- 2 days later his steam account was locked... serves him right...

Anonymous

If I see a cheater, i use hax to kill him.

Anonymous

NICE! thats the way to do it. And then just report him.

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I dont know, I dont play online games

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just one question is optimizing the game (changing fov max packets ect ) consideret cheating because i always try to se the game at the best for me so i get the lowest pings and the best performance

and i mostly don't care about cheats and if he is doing to so many times than i just join an other server. but i care more about base rapers (bf games they steal your tank they kill you when you just spawn) and noobs that only use explosives to kill and are anoghing as hell.

and yes i find it more a honor to be called a cheater when you play whitout cheats but you play verry good (like you done a lot of headshot but they ting you use aimbot but you don't)

anc if youlay a privit game whit your friend and you enable ingame cheats than it is also fun (cheats like low gravety 0 reload one of mine friends had set up a server whit no cheat protection but everyone used the same cheats so it was fair and funny)

Anonymous

Mostly dont care about cheat, just join an other server..haha

you are most likly a cheater "massau" you know aswell as me that that does not work. All severs are full off cheaters and all they want to do is to destroy the game!

All that talk about noobs provs my point

Anonymous

Cheating disgusts me. i will admit i have cheated in the past, but it ruins the game and just makes everyone you play with aggravated.

The only thing i hate more then cheaters is anti cheating systems (punkbuster for example) that block things like your steam overlay, and other misc voice chat programs etc.

What is the thrill in cheating? there is no challenge, there is no reward except for a purely unbelievable score which if you tell people about they will instantly know your cheating, and the feeling of being dirty inside...

Cheaters kill online gaming.

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I didn't believe it at first, but then when I saw the impossible in my kill cam I just point it out. A good question is, are exploits cheats?

When people lose sight, they pray for better vision. Even though the path of ignorance was their choice, they believe it to be an outer entity like karma or bad luck - in thus believing an outer cause will cure it. You want change? Stop throwing dirt in your eyes to attain mercy for looking weak.

Anonymous

If you're good enough to kill a cheater, stay in the game and you'd be a legend

Anonymous

we'll, instead of having to leave the game room once in a while, just get a large amount of friends to play, and make private rooms with them only, and let other's join the gaming organization, just maybe get them to do it while doing a live video broadcast with xfire, and some people say xfire's live broadcast lag's them, just tell them to close everything ele accept it and some music, because they shouldn't lag with it, i only have 1gb ram and onboard video and my motherboards gblan and i dont lag with it, that way anyone could just check to see if their legit, but only do this for people who are new to the community for maybe about a week or 2 so you know what level of skills they have, then if they improve like an insane amount, ask them to broadcast just to see. sorry that the comment was long, just some ideas to fix this annoying problem.

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What?! I'm one of the only people that gets sick of cheaters? That can't be true. Look deeply into those inactive parts of your brain that recalls you taking a headshot from the beginning of a MW2 stage. You watch what happens in the kill cam, only god knows how, a guy seemingly shot a rogue bullet, but somehow lands on your head. That, my friends, is called cheating. 

Anonymous

holy man, just cause it's a headshot you assume he hacks from great distances, lol there are some pro's i know who look like hackers because they do that so much, but they have had game moderators come to their rooms and tell them all to stop reporting him for hacking, because he's been playing 2 yr's in the game i play "Combat Arms" and has almost a 4.0 kdr, and that's even a high kdr for hackers in the game i play, most skilled players only get around 2.0 kdr's =) although, my friend who get's reported 24/7 has 16gb ram 25mb internet and i think something like 10tb hd so..... he's just a rich guy =) but yess, if i didn't know my friend, i would assume he was a hacker too =) i'v seen him gaming before live video broadcast, and a live internet test for speed.

Anonymous

yea thats the reason I quit age of conan, it could have been such a great game if it wherent for all the bugs and weird exploits/cheats

Tiv
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I tried playing that game, but I got jumped constantly by small gangs and it crashed alot on my computer at that time.

Anonymous

i cheat on tf2 :D

Tiv
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At least you are honest about it. I hate that game anyway..lol

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Cheating is one of the biggest reasons for game admin burnout, at least it sure did it for me.  I had my own coduo server, made my own modern weapons mod for it, and ran custom maps & awe.  It was the #1 coduo server worldwide for a long time.  I made it because I loved the game, loved modding, loved to play.  But after two years of constantly have to stop playing to spec and kick a cheater, or warn glitchers, hassling with banning them, putting up with them in my forums, etc., I totally burned out.   When I ran punkbuster, everyone complained about lag, spent a ton of time tweaking punkbuster to get lag as low as possible.  When I'd cave to everyone's wishes to shut off punkbuster, here come the cheaters in full force. In the long run, it just wasn't worth it, in both time and money.  Cheaters ruin the fun for everyone. 

Anonymous

Game-admins are sometimes the mastercheater!

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If I can kill the cheater before he kills me I will go for it. If not, I take a break or switch servers.

Anonymous

If I find a cheater, most of the time i do nothing but try to beat him. If you beat the cheater...oh lord it feels great. But if i cant beat him I switch servers.