Windows 7 Bugs/Issues/Problems (Offical Thread)

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Geek Mistress, saw your post.

Messed around with Win7 last night. Install was fairly speedy. Big problem, using an nVIDIA 7600GT, I couldn't figure out how to access the nVIDIA control panel, but it worked like a charm. My favorite option was the fact that you can choose from non-standard resolutions. FINALLY! Now we can have less people selecting 1280x1024 on a 1680x1050 screen!

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@ Mirkin

how can any respectable tweaker/power user NOT remember batch files? hehe

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Saturn2888;700863 wrote:
Geek Mistress, saw your post.

Messed around with Win7 last night. Install was fairly speedy. Big problem, using an nVIDIA 7600GT, I couldn't figure out how to access the nVIDIA control panel, but it worked like a charm. My favorite option was the fact that you can choose from non-standard resolutions. FINALLY! Now we can have less people selecting 1280x1024 on a 1680x1050 screen!

oh yah, i've been running NV card since AMD bought ATI. plus, i had to finally admit that the NV 7 series FINALLY had the rendering quality that ATI had, which is what drew me in to using ATI over NV all those years, lol.

it was the ATI 9 series that finally made NV take notice to performance AND quality.

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Because many that are here would not have heard of them. They really did go by the wayside.

And because if you do know them, you ARE at least a Power User, and are showing signs of age.

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Tivon;700848 wrote:
Do you remember Aerial's A3D interface? It had so much promise until Creative got them. X-FI would be the logical next jump for those people that are holding onto their Sound Blaster cards. Pretty much anything beats onboard audio IMHO, but that just depends. I've had some good results with Cmedia.

I'm curious to find out what Win 7 thinks about the Via chipset. Guess we shale see later tonight maybe. :)

tivvy? you're running a VIA chipset with a C2Q cpu? WHY!?!? hope things go well for ya. don't see why win7 would have probs with Via since they're into the ITX and OEM market, but ya never know.

@subzero ...about movies on the computer. i'm feel the same way. i used to love to watch movies back in the day on my computer bc i had a 21" CRT and an Altec Lansing computer sound system. reason being is that back then the RAMDACs performance wasn't very good and the audio outs on sound card, when plugged into my home theater system, gave out that buzz sound from electromagnetic devices, like fans. but now we have great video output and digital optical outs so no analog noise being output by the DACs.

next up? HDMI yah baybee :banana

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Mirkin;700870 wrote:
Because many that are here would not have heard of them. They really did go by the wayside.

And because if you do know them, you ARE at least a Power User, and are showing signs of age.

knowledge and wisdom never show their age :thumb

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TheGeekMistress;700874 wrote:
knowledge and wisdom never show their age :thumb

But they do prove your age. :lmao

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@mirkin - this isn't the thread to get into it, but knowledge of the past only makes for better decisions in the future. i don't see how knowing that, say Hitler, was committing genocide, shows anything about a person, but their understanding of history and how better to make decisions in the future about foreign relations.

let's get back to WIN7 =)

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So anyone tried ATi gaming in Win7? I'm gonna try nVIDIA gaming. I wish I could try w/ my HD4850s, but I'm gonna need a USB drive to mess around with if I do that. Not gonna ... I have a USB drive oh... I guess I'll get on that sometime.

By the way, it's asking for a serial number. Should I have one?

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Mirkin;700859 wrote:
I wonder how many remember what batch is?

LOL.. I write batch files all the time. Mostly I use them to disable and enable services. :)

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Saturn2888;700881 wrote:
So anyone tried ATi gaming in Win7? I'm gonna try nVIDIA gaming. I wish I could try w/ my HD4850s, but I'm gonna need a USB drive to mess around with if I do that. Not gonna ... I have a USB drive oh... I guess I'll get on that sometime.

By the way, it's asking for a serial number. Should I have one?

I'm gaming with ATI in Win7. Those Mirror's Edge video I posted were done in Win7.

No video card related problems with Win7 so far.

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@MakubexGB - are you using the windows upgrade drivers for your vid card, or are you using Vista drivers? i have an NV card and win7 update gave me Prerelease WDDM 1.1 drivers from nVidia and i'm having suspend issues. it goes into S3 fine (not hibernation mode), but when i wiggle my mouse to wake it up i have video driver problems on my 2D desktop.

should i try out the Vista 64 NV drivers?

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TheGeekMistress;700873 wrote:
tivvy? you're running a VIA chipset with a C2Q cpu? WHY!?!? hope things go well for ya. don't see why win7 would have probs with Via since they're into the ITX and OEM market, but ya never know.

@subzero ...about movies on the computer. i'm feel the same way. i used to love to watch movies back in the day on my computer bc i had a 21" CRT and an Altec Lansing computer sound system. reason being is that back then the RAMDACs performance wasn't very good and the audio outs on sound card, when plugged into my home theater system, gave out that buzz sound from electromagnetic devices, like fans. but now we have great video output and digital optical outs so no analog noise being output by the DACs.

next up? HDMI yah baybee :banana

If I had the money I'd buy something better. I'm not complaining. Just anticipating compatibility issues with lesser valued parts. My Rig is a stable system most of the time. But I'd like to overclock my CPU or just get a better processor all together though. It's the lack of GHz/MHz with most programs that's ruining it for me right now. Even a small 200MHz overclock is noticeable to me. 2.4GHz is nothing when most games need around 3GHz. I don't feel like I'm getting everything out of it that I can. Raising the FSB high enough to max out the Q6600 is not an easy thing to do without the right motherboard and memory combination. I don't know if it's even worth it to me anymore. For once I'd just like to have a complete kickass system without any bottlenecks, just badass to the core, word to your mother and then overclock it to something beyond all known levels of kicking assness... WTH? :Blah

My last motherboard had a problem of buzzing sounds on the USB line. When I moved the mouse you could hear sounds. So my USB powered head phones Rodney sent me went unused for a very long time. That motherboard was also handed down to me. Man I've living behind in the times. I don't even have an HDTV yet. My TV doesn't even have RCA! My God what am I doing with my time? I should be making money! I'm still partying like it's 1999...

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@ tivon - ya, i replied to your post that you made like this in the Win7 Official thread, HERE

over the years it seems like you always have had some problem or other with your hardware. i know you got the fam and the house n stuff. just wish you had some better luck. =)

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TheGeekMistress;700909 wrote:
@ tivon - ya, i replied to your post that you made like this in the Win7 Official thread, HERE

over the years it seems like you always have had some problem or other with your hardware. i know you got the fam and the house n stuff. just wish you had some better luck. =)

TGM

My current problem that is annoying me more than anything else right now is my video card. I can't figure out why all of my games look so blocky. I have to turn up the AA to about 4x to make my games look good. But if I do that my Frame Rate drops below my response time and it gets me killed in FPS games. Also I see alot of white dotted lines around some objects. I think it has something to do with the ATI drivers. If I use the older drivers I lose 25% of the speed in the new games like COD:WAW.

What kind of bugs will Tivon Find in Win7... :shifty

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@MakubexGB - are you using the windows upgrade drivers for your vid card, or are you using Vista drivers? i have an NV card and win7 update gave me Prerelease WDDM 1.1 drivers from nVidia and i'm having suspend issues. it goes into S3 fine (not hibernation mode), but when i wiggle my mouse to wake it up i have video driver problems on my 2D desktop.

should i try out the Vista 64 NV drivers?

TGM

I'm using ATI Catalyst 8.12 drivers for Vista. I didn't install Win7's WDDM update because I have experience problems with those updates in the past. I only use the card's official drivers.

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Nice! The 4870X2 is it?

Which games? Like, there are a number I can't get to work in Vista on my HD4850s either in or out of CrossFire.

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Yeah, it seems the HD4850 has some issues. ckoons1 got one and quickly decided to sell it because he was getting a series of issues. On the other hand, I haven't has any issues at all with my 4870X2. I've played COD4 and Mirror's Edge so far. Ran Stalker Cleary Sky and X3 Time Demo Benchmarks without any problems too.

What games are you having trouble with?

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MakubexGB;700935 wrote:
I'm using ATI Catalyst 8.12 drivers for Vista. I didn't install Win7's WDDM update because I have experience problems with those updates in the past. I only use the card's official drivers.

I still need to get myself a Key.. lol

Anyways, ran into a problem with the ATI HD 3850 AGP card, only standard VGA drivers. I didn't really expect it to have those drivers anyway. Loaded the 8.12 64-bit Vista AGP Hotfix drivers from AMD's website just fine.

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I well also confirm a problem with IE8 and vb3 forums. It crashed over and over again until I installed Firefox. :Blah

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I did find at the beginning of the install, right after "starting windows animation" it sat there at the blue desktop for about 5 minutes before there was ever a popup or an indicator that windows was doing anything at all.

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I'm glad that I have all Nvidia cards now. They properly handle LCD Scaling in their driver. I could NEVER get that working properly with any of my ATI cards.

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SubZero, that is a drive issue back in the day with BOTH nVIDIA and ATi. Actually, ATi fixed it first. I would know because it was still broken by the time I switched over. I think it had to do w/ the VGA cable but I do not know for sure because I've always had a box of DVI cables.

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I just tested and my S3 sleep with the ATI 3850 and Vista drivers works just fine after resume. I will admit that Sleep mode is a little bit longer than Standby to shutdown, but probably worth it to have your files saved anyway.

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Actually, ATI still didn't have it right, which is why I switched to Nvidia.

Nvidia has that "Do Not Scale" option that I can choose if I wish to. ATI's would always go full screen no matter what resolution. It was an issue covered in exasperating detail by many over at Rage 3D.

Yet the first time I got my old Geforce 3 TI 500 out of a box and slapped it in there, it worked 100% first shot. Nice.

ATI rocked when I had a CRT (very good VGA quality signal and 2D filters) but ATI defaulting to "let the monitor do the scaling" did not help me when none of my LCD's had that feature.

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Windows Media playback for Divx AVI files is choppy. After loading in the Divx installer WMP doesn't like to start unless I skip forward to a part of the movie, but no chops now. The DivX stand alone player has been acting up with the audio. Sounds like a strange metallic alteration?

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Tivon;701024 wrote:
I well also confirm a problem with IE8 and vb3 forums. It crashed over and over again until I installed Firefox. :Blah

I know what you mean. To fix the problem with IE8 and vb3 forums just click "Compatibility View" located next to the address bar on the right side (looks like a paper torn in half).

@Saturn, what games are you having trouble with in Win7?

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I don't like the search setup. I can't cut and then paste in with the mouse in the search bars without using Control+V to do it. And it fails to do a real full search from the start without defining the whole computer or drives. Needs Work on the file searching.

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There is a bug in this forum using their IE.
If you do a quick reply it wants you to sign in again.

But if you do an advanced before you post you are ok. :shifty

Maybe the vBulletin programmers just don't like IE? :Blah

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cvasquez;701089 wrote:
There is a bug in this forum using their IE.
If you do a quick reply it wants you to sign in again.

But if you do an advanced before you post you are ok. :shifty

Have not noticed that.

Have you put the URL into the Trusted Zone and made the changes to the Privacy settings so cookies are stored?

I stay logged in for weeks at a time, message after message, using Maxthon 1.6.x over IE 6, and I can whip out reply after reply (I talk way too much) and thankfully don't have the logout/login thing. Plus, I put the cookie i the CCleaner exceptions area.

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MakubexGB;700935 wrote:
I'm using ATI Catalyst 8.12 drivers for Vista. I didn't install Win7's WDDM update because I have experience problems with those updates in the past. I only use the card's official drivers.

yup, i usually do not use the MS update drivers, but i thought i'd try them out in Win7 64 and they aren't supplied by MS they are from NV as prerelease NV drivers. i'm going to try out some Vista 64 drivers soon tho.

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Tivon;701033 wrote:
I just tested and my S3 sleep with the ATI 3850 and Vista drivers works just fine after resume. I will admit that Sleep mode is a little bit longer than Standby to shutdown, but probably worth it to have your files saved anyway.

when my computer goes into S3 suspend to ram, i don't have anything open thats not already been saved. i make it a habit to save often. specially with a beta OS.

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