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I have had 2 "crashes" of the Superfetch service, when this occurs, it brings down several other services.

Those being:
Windows Audio Endpoint Builder
Office Files Service
Human Interface Device Access
Network Connections Service
Program Compatibility Assistant

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WMP DVD playback is a little laggy for me. VLC runs smoothly. MCE hiccups very often.

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It's Official ;).

I also noticed that Windows Media Center is a little slow, especially on startup. Causing the system to be unresponsive for a few moments.

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Salavat23;698667 wrote:
You can't expect everything to be flawless, but overall, the Win7 beta is a lot better then the Win Vista betas in terms of stability and reliability.

Of course not, but that's why I already submitted at least 15-20 feedbacks to Microsoft. I really like Windows 7, and I hope the best for it. Microsoft has made a lot of improvements over Vista and I'm more than glad to roll the Beta around and see what I can help with.

Some of the C# programs I wrote in Vista that use Win32's and WDM's DLLs work perfectly fine which is nice to see. Visual Studio Express 2008 works as well, although it feels a little slower.
Office 2007 Enterprise works perfectly well, although it said there were no updates. My updates seemed to have fixed itself somehow, which is always welcome.

This probably isn't a bug, but rather compatibility issue. A number of the Sidebar gadgets don't work properly when used in Windows 7. The Anime meter, for one, is totally broken. The multi-meter dual core has some rendering issues when used in large mode. Haven't tested others yet.

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Yes - send your feedback - ESPECIALLY about the START MENU and TASKBAR.

Please, just BEG Them to allow for a "Classic Mode" version that behaves and looks like the menu system in Vista. All we need is the OPTION to have that available. They can ADD whatever they want, but man, please don't let'em goof it up, ok?

Please? Seriously. This is a HUGE deal to me. (obsessed little geek, ain't I? ) Really though, if they fixed that, I'd be much more likely to actually buy the thing and use it.

Anyway, Enjoy!

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3dGameMan;698645 wrote:
I hear ya... I installed Win 7 32bit on an older laptop and the screen resolution is messed up as well. No video driver installed for it :( So the everthing is kinda distorted and fonts look bad. Let's hope there's a driver for it later.

I would guess you're referring to my upstairs laptop for light internet duties :).

I had a problem with viewing the posts within threads in the 3GM forum. I could get into the topics, but when I would click to go into a particular thread, the screen would go white/blank. I had to use "Compatibility View" under the Page tab in Internet Explorer and add the forums within. Works ok now :).

Did anyone else experience this?

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Orangepeel;698888 wrote:

I had a problem with viewing the posts within threads in the 3GM forum. I could get into the topics, but when I would click to go into a particular thread, the screen would go white/blank. I had to use "Compatibility View" under the Page tab in Internet Explorer and add the forums within. Works ok now :).

Did anyone else experience this?

Had the exact same issue; but as you said, compatibility view fixes it :Thumb

I am having odd moments where I would lose internet access. It comes and goes as it pleases. I rarely use the internet on it much, so it's not like its much of an issue. It's probably a driver problem.

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I'm not sure if this should go into this thread, or into the other thread, but I think I'll try here first. Please feel free to move it if it's in the wrong place.

I cannot seem to find a way to change the text color used in the Task Bar using any of the "normal" themes.

Classic Mode and those High Contrast type of skins do seem to do this, but in all of the normal skins, the text in the task-bar "listing" for each app turns out to be WHITE on LIGHT BLUE, which I'm really having trouble picking up visually.

I did try the "Get More Themes" command listed in the themes dialog, but it does not appear to be functioning yet, at least for me.

Can someone help me out a bit here? I'd like to try standard BLACK text on that background color of the taskbar and see if that does it.

If there is some setting in an INI or Registry deal or what not, I'd appreciate it if you'd share the info about that.

I'll keep Googling but I'll keep an eye out here to see if one of ya'all figured it out.

Thanks much.

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cvasquez;698920 wrote:
No 64Bit version support for my 3COM gigabit NIC

Was it supported under VISTA? If it was, I changed the drivers for my NICs over to the VISTA drivers, and they have been running fine.

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I'll have to test the new IE 8 and see if I can dupe the problem.

If it wasn't for Maxthon being available and working, I don't think I'd ever want to use IE 7 or IE 8 unless I absolutely had to.

I'd be all over FireFox like Madonna on Cold Sore cream.

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I'm having trouble getting audio to work in Win 7 under a VM.

Vista worked fine in the same VM app.

And Startup Repair is one very, very, very slow / sluggish / time consuming process.

Anyone else tried a Startup Repair? Does the thing EVER actually finish and move on?

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SubZero;699072 wrote:
I'm having trouble getting audio to work in Win 7 under a VM.

Vista worked fine in the same VM app.

And Startup Repair is one very, very, very slow / sluggish / time consuming process.

Anyone else tried a Startup Repair? Does the thing EVER actually finish and move on?

Well, I have not tried Startup Repair yet.

But as for the sund in VM, this was a problem mentioned in the Pre-Beta release, the author (and others) believe it is related to the suppression of the UAC prompts in W7

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Delusion77;699027 wrote:
I had this with ie and im using a 4870x2

Solution: Firefox 3.1 :P

works fine w/ FF

yup, i had issues with IE8 in WIN7 64 too. but i tried out the IE8 WINXP beta (different build) and it was doing some wierd stuff. Slowed my system down greatly. I uninstalled it and my XP worked fine again. I decided to stay with XP till they had ironed out Vista 64, but i'm just going to skip right over Vista now.

In WIN7 IE8 exhibited the same behavioral problems, like when there's a lot of flash adverts and apps, the whole screen looks like it wants to redraw, but it'll go totally white then go back to the loaded page then back again, whenever i moused over any flash app.

I've had no issues with the WIN Update app. I've installed all the updates for my hardware, even the NV drivers for my 8800 GTS (G90) drivers; no issues. The resolution is fine, in fact WINXP didn't give me all the correct res options, but WIN7 does. i can run all res options fine on my Sammy 245BW monitor. One thing i did notice is that instead of using the monitors scaling, or the vid cards, it's completely turned off. It's set to "do not scale" in the NV control panel.

So, i installed Firefox 3.0.5 and it works great so far. I've installed my most used apps and i've not had any issues yet. There were some compatibility issues, but i used the compatibility option b4 installing the app and the app works correctly. There was only one app that had that issue. I've been installing Vista 64 compatible apps.

This OS boots stunningly fast for me and shuts down just as quickly. I've tried the log on and log off and have had no issues. The only thing i can say i', having trouble with is sometimes when it goes into S3 suspend mode, when powered back on, the icons pinned to the taskbar disappear; logging n then on resolves the missing icons. Also, i have internet connection stability issue when coming out of S3 suspend.

The apps that want to auto install right from the net sometimes have problems running. So i have to download them, save to disk, then install. I believe it's the compatibility issue bc the apps are for Vista. But mostly Vista apps work.

This OS, for a Beta is just as good as the Whistler Beta i tested back in the day; very impressive and fast.

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I haven't had WIN7 installed long, a few days, never ran the earlier builds. so far so good. =)

I'll report back here if i find some type of real issue, but i'm loving this 7000 build. even µTorrent runs fine. I installed a free virus scanner, AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic, and am having no issues. haven't tried AVG bc peeps don't like the new version. i use mcafee bc it's free from comcast when in XP.

hmmm, can't think of anything else right now. I'll be doing more testing of software in the coming days.

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TheGeekMistress;699093 wrote:
In WIN7 IE8 exhibited the same behavioral problems, like when there's a lot of flash adverts and apps, the whole screen looks like it wants to redraw, but it'll go totally white then go back to the loaded page then back again, whenever i moused over any flash app.

I was wondering if you might be willing to try installing a program called Maxthon. It is a browser interface that uses the existing IE 8 engine.

I believe Maxthon 1.6.5.18 still uses the standard Favorites folder, so even the links are common. I'm not sure if Maxthon 2.x does, however.

But still, if you are able to test one or both and the problems do not persist, it may help to find a solution.

Just a thought. Here's the URL, in case you wish to give it a try:

http://www.maxthon.com/

Hope you get it all sorted out.

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SubZero;699097 wrote:
I was wondering if you might be willing to try installing a program called Maxthon. It is a browser interface that uses the existing IE 8 engine.

I believe Maxthon 1.6.5.18 still uses the standard Favorites folder, so even the links are common. I'm not sure if Maxthon 2.x does, however.

But still, if you are able to test one or both and the problems do not persist, it may help to find a solution.

Just a thought. Here's the URL, in case you wish to give it a try:

http://www.maxthon.com/

Hope you get it all sorted out.

ok, i tried out Maxthon 1.6.5.18 and it worked better than WIN7 IE8, but not as well as FF 3.0.5. I went to the top ten flash sites in google search and it exhibited the some of the same behavior as IE8, but not nearly as bad with the flash/redraw thing. I uninstalled that and tried out the 2.1.5 and it's MUCH better than the 1.6.5.18 ..it's much faster on loading websites. seems more fluid, but when mouse scrolling it has a bit of lurch and lag to the scroll. but it's performance loading pages is actually better than FF 3.0.5. I'm posting with the 2.1 version in here right now.

I used to run MyIE2 back in the day and this 2.1 is impressive in WIN7. I will still use FF3 tho as it's ability to read the HTML and formatting is better. but if you want to run Maxthon, then i would suggest the 2.1 version.

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oh ya, btw, I really do not like the Start Menu in WIN7. i agree there needs to be a choice of classic menu and the new WIN7 menu.

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TheGeekMistress;699093 wrote:
yup, i had issues with IE8 in WIN7 64 too. but i tried out the IE8 WINXP beta (different build) and it was doing some wierd stuff. Slowed my system down greatly. I uninstalled it and my XP worked fine again. I decided to stay with XP till they had ironed out Vista 64, but i'm just going to skip right over Vista now.

I have the educational version of Vista on another drive, but I still prefer to use XP. Relatives and friends have burned me out with Vista problems. So I'm in the same boat waiting for Win7.

Welcome back. :wavey

TheGeekMistress;699124 wrote:
oh ya, btw, I really do not like the Start Menu in WIN7. i agree there needs to be a choice of classic menu and the new WIN7 menu.

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I never did like the new Start Menu. That's the first thing I always change to classic. I know if I do it then there must be alot of other people as well, so why do they put that crap in there in the first place? I just want to click on the start button and get to my program as fast as possible. It's just like the layout of IE7, what a joke! It's as if Microsoft is trying too hard to be different with no regard to simplicity and actual functionality. And they wonder why FireFox and Linux is gaining ground and people not giving up XP.

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hi Tivvy =) thank you

did you mean start menu, or taskbar? i actually like the taskbar a lot. it's the complicated start menu that is a pain.

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SubZero;699097 wrote:
I was wondering if you might be willing to try installing a program called Maxthon. It is a browser interface that uses the existing IE 8 engine.

I believe Maxthon 1.6.5.18 still uses the standard Favorites folder, so even the links are common. I'm not sure if Maxthon 2.x does, however.

But still, if you are able to test one or both and the problems do not persist, it may help to find a solution.

Just a thought. Here's the URL, in case you wish to give it a try:

http://www.maxthon.com/

Hope you get it all sorted out.

Just tried out Opera 9.63 and it's very fast as well. but it is having issues with the HTML formatting too; have to reload numerous times to get to see the flash apps. but hey, it's Opera right? lol, never is actually like the HTML format tells it to do. very fast loading pages, just as fast as maxthon 2.1.

Firefox3 is great at HTML formatting, but it's slower at loading pages than Maxthon and Opera. I've been running Opera in XP for a while now and this app in WIN7 runs faster. same version too.

I tried playing youtube vids also, works great in all browers.

none of these browers have as many issues as IE8. If Maxthon 2.1 used a different engine, instead of IE8 i'm sure it would be much better.

Seems like IE8 right now isn't the browser to run.

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oh found a bug in the embedded audio with my 680i. my digital optical audio output won't allow any sound to go to my home theater systems digital optical audio input. i know it werx tho bc it does just fine in an XP evironment. and yes, i switched the output in the mixer to optical output.

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someone also made the comment that Win Media Center was sluggish and also was having some problems. but for me, it works just fine and it's very speedy, no waiting. it's up and ready soon as start it up.

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i'm having issues with my screen res scaling. when i run it in native mode everything is fine. when i run a non native res, like 1680x1050, then the scaling is disabled setting itself to "do not scale". if i try to set it to my monitor or NV vid card scaling, it reverts right back to "do not scale" setting. when i run in native mode at 1920x1200, there's no problem with the scaling options. the NV control panel sets it to "use my displays built in scaling"

i'm using the update NV driver from the WIN7 update app. it's shown as being a NV driver but it says (prerelease - WDDM 1.1)

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TheGeekMistress;699131 wrote:
hi Tivvy =) thank you

did you mean start menu, or taskbar? i actually like the taskbar a lot. it's the complicated start menu that is a pain.

i thought i might add that when you're running multi tab in IE8, if you point to the IE8 icon that's pinned to the taskbar, it'll show a thumbnail of all the tabs open.

when running any other browser it only shows the active tab thumbnail. i like the tab thumbnail, but the IE8 version here is crappy still. i'm sure when new versions of other popular browser's for WIN7 are released that they'll get the tab thumbnail view too; at least i hope so.

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TheGeekMistress;699131 wrote:
hi Tivvy =) thank you

did you mean start menu, or taskbar? i actually like the taskbar a lot. it's the complicated start menu that is a pain.

Yea.. it was that darn Start Menu I was talking about. ;) That abomination bugs almost everyone, I just wish they would get a clue. There is still time for them to correct these problems being Beta, but would rather they did something back in Alpha. :cool_shad

TheGeekMistress;699131 wrote:
hi Tivvy =) thank you

did you mean start menu, or taskbar? i actually like the taskbar a lot. it's the complicated start menu that is a pain.

TheGeekMistress;699145 wrote:
i thought i might add that when you're running multi tab in IE8, if you point to the IE8 icon that's pinned to the taskbar, it'll show a thumbnail of all the tabs open.

when running any other browser it only shows the active tab thumbnail. i like the tab thumbnail, but the IE8 version here is crappy still. i'm sure when new versions of other popular browser's for WIN7 are released that they'll get the tab thumbnail view too; at least i hope so.

I refuse to give any thought that IE8 might be an improvement over anything and will continue down my path of righteousness and blind hatred to all forms of abominations they call internet browsers..lol. J/K .. FF3.1 Beta seems to have a few of its own problems in regards to tab sensitivity right now. :)

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SubZero;698704 wrote:
Yes - send your feedback - ESPECIALLY about the START MENU and TASKBAR.

Please, just BEG Them to allow for a "Classic Mode" version that behaves and looks like the menu system in Vista. All we need is the OPTION to have that available. They can ADD whatever they want, but man, please don't let'em goof it up, ok?

Please? Seriously. This is a HUGE deal to me. (obsessed little geek, ain't I? ) Really though, if they fixed that, I'd be much more likely to actually buy the thing and use it.

Anyway, Enjoy!

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Has anyone ran any games that had bugs in Win7?
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Mirkin;699084 wrote:
Well, I have not tried Startup Repair yet.

But as for the sund in VM, this was a problem mentioned in the Pre-Beta release, the author (and others) believe it is related to the suppression of the UAC prompts in W7

Thanks for the info. Gives me some things to look into, for I have indeed supressed the UAC prompts. I would not have seen the possible connection had you not mentioned it, so thank you again for the reply. :thumb

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ok, i tried out Maxthon 1.6.5.18 and it worked better than WIN7 IE8, but not as well as FF 3.0.5. I went to the top ten flash sites in google search and it exhibited the some of the same behavior as IE8, but not nearly as bad with the flash/redraw thing. I uninstalled that and tried out the 2.1.5 and it's MUCH better than the 1.6.5.18 ..it's much faster on loading websites. seems more fluid, but when mouse scrolling it has a bit of lurch and lag to the scroll. but it's performance loading pages is actually better than FF 3.0.5. I'm posting with the 2.1 version in here right now.

I used to run MyIE2 back in the day and this 2.1 is impressive in WIN7. I will still use FF3 tho as it's ability to read the HTML and formatting is better. but if you want to run Maxthon, then i would suggest the 2.1 version.

Good to hear. Maxthon should give people most if not all of the benefits of the IE 7 and IE 8 code, with a few extra's thrown in. I use Maxthon 1.6.5.18 because I'm so entrenched in the 1.x camp I had trouble trying to transition to Maxthon 2.x. I believe some other people did as well, which is why they have continued development on the 1.x series and why they still make it available as an alternate but still supported download.

I too was a MyIE2 person, and the name change to Maxthon kinda bugged me at the time. Still, I was quite impressed at how that app worked. So much so that I hardly run the standard IE without it.

Perhaps my initial take on it was a bit simplified - I was telling folks - "Hey, it's just this great add-on for IE. Sits right on top of the code, so you get all the benefits of IE 6 but with some additional functionality and an alternate interface." Maxthon 2.x seems to be going beyond that even, to the point where it actually supports an alternate Favorites implementation.

I guess I'm still seeing it that way when I use Maxthon 1.6.x with IE 8 in Windows 7. I'm still taking full advantage of the updated code in IE 8, yet at the same time, I get to use an interface that I'm more familiar with. It does seem like a "Win-Win" to me.

When people refer to Maxthon as an actual Browser, it sort of confuses me. I mean, it's still Internet Explorer under the hood, right? Just with a face lift. :)

I do hope you find it useful.

And on the Start Menu, I've sort of found a way around things. Hopefully it'll be ok to post the IMG links in this thread as well to demonstrate what I'm talking about in the context of this thread. So, here goes:

Here is Maxthon 1.6.5.18 (with the More Options 1.6.2 addon) running atop Internet Explorer 8 inside of Windows 7:

and here is how I was able to handle the start menu so that the initial click on the start button gives me fast access to all my key apps. No need to go into a nested sub-level and it doesn't seem to force a scroll bar on me. It actually expands the start menu spatially so I don't need to go through that unfamiliar process of using the fixed-size menu with a scroll bar. It may not be the best solution for some, but it seems to give me what I need and also allows me to set the links to the apps in the specific order that I would like them to be in. I'm not sure the "Recent Program" listing feature allows for that. But here it is:

Saturn2888;699149 wrote:
Just save your theme in Vista, copy it on the 7 machine and double click. It should work.

I had not even thought about trying that. Thanks for the tip!

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Would Rodney take all the bugs/glitches you guys are finding and sending it to Microsoft, and say something like "From the members of 3DGameMan" ???

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Odd thing. I installed an app (Britannica Encyclopedia) and the desktop shortcut was like 5 lines long in terms of text underneath it.

I highlighted it, pressed F2, renamed it to simply say "Britannica", hit the Enter key and BAM - the shortcut disappeared.

Tried Auto Arrange, a few other things, no joy.

So, I went into "All Programs", found the folder and then the icon. I selected that icon, held down the CTRL key and dragged / dropped it to the desktop to create a shortcut.

I highlighted it and pressed F2 and renamed it to Britannica.

Suddenly, I have TWO of the same short cut, with the same name on the desktop.

Have no idea how that happened.

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That's something that can happen in XP. Ha ha ha. Strange it found its way into 7.

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