Java Automatic Update Auto-Prompts UAC When Idle

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GraysonPeddie
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That subject says it all. Has anyone seen this prompt popped up out of nowhere?

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A few minutes ago, I turned off my monitor and went into my kitchen to get some hot Lipton tea. After about 2 minutes later after I prepare my tea, I drank some tea and I heard the beep and it seems like it's a UAC prompt. I went like "huh?" and went to my TV and turn it on. After 30 seconds of activating a screen (DLP HDTV, since it uses a lamp), I no doubt saw the prompt.

So did I start the Java Automatic Update by myself? (In other words, the UAC prompt says "if you started the program, continue.") Of course not! I kept Outlook 2007 and X-Lite (softphone) open, but that's about it. I don't know of any running program that uses Java so it seems obvious that something that executed the automatic updater with an "auto" switch seems to be the culprit but I don't know WHAT is.

I am running Vista Ultimate 64-Bit.

Turning off UAC is never an option as it's the same as running Linux in root mode, but that deserves a thread of its own. Uninstalling Java is not an option as there are some websites that use Java.

Had UAC have not been triggered by Java Automatic Update automatically, I would've finished up drinking some tea and go straight to bed when calling it a midnight, but oh well... *sigh* :(

Now where is that emoticon with a head banging a computer monitor...? I missed it. :p

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Java does automatic updates. You can change this in the java option icon in control panel.

see if that helps.

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It may not be an effect if I either choose to either notify me before downloading or installing an update. My thinking is that UAC will come up during that time when the automatic update kicks in starting 12:00 AM during fourth of each month.

So even if I have the updater notify me before it downloads the updates, UAC can still kick in whenever I start Windows, causing me to determine whether to allow the Java automatic updater to gain admin privileges or not, so I always choose "no" since I did not start the program.

I know it's a risk, but I've cleared the check box for checking updates automatically and possibly remove the scheduler from the startup/run list whenever I restart Windows (that are sometimes required for Windows updates when I check it manually).

Like it or not, there are developers who don't care about carefully writing code that should minimize the triggering of UAC prompts, even the Java Automatic Update that I did not trigger a UAC prompt unless I explicitly tell it to do so. Because of this, I don't trust Sun/Oracle for providing automatic updates.

But thanks anyway for your help.

(On a side note...) Heh-- looking at your join date, no wonder you had such a low post count. Mine's more than a thousand.

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d3uS2029
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i have disabled UAC completely anyways, those things were annoying!! lol

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Really, then I can just log in to Ubuntu as root, because sudo and gksudo is annoying anyway. lol

Sorry, that ain't gonna happen. It's a bad joke that I could just leave "root" logged in all the time.

Besides, you're asking for trouble and you might just invite malware into your system. You can never be too careful.

Update: One of my possible solutions is to uninstall Java in Windows and have Java in a Ubuntu 9.10 virtual machine. I'm afraid this will not solve my issue until the developers get into the habit of developing code to never trigger UAC automatically without me knowing what's going on.

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sorry for the late reply..

That actually might work. Have you tried it yet?

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I haven't bother to do that but it should work.

However, I rarely come across websites that require Java.

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