Gaming: Console or PC?

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I don't really know a lot about Gaming Consoles but nowadays aren't they worth more than a PC when it comes to gaming? I don't know... but aren't the games maxed out as far as graphics and performance goes on consoles? Or did I understand that wrong? For a PC game you almost have to upgrade once every year to keep up with the graphics.
What I am really asking is: aren't Consoles a better investment that PC when it comes to gaming?
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Consoles are currently running with technology from more than five years ago. You CAN upgrade your computer every year if you want to if you want to keep up to date with the latest games, but no you do not have to. Many games these days are made for console and ported over to PC so the hardware requirements are pretty much that of five years ago as well... COD series for example.

Basically there are pros and cons to both setups and really it all depends on how you want to play a game. If you are looking to get the most out of a game (graphics, more precise control and depth) go with a PC. If you are not really looking just to play games, talk smack and are easily satisfied by what the companies feel like feeding you, go with a console.

Computers are a bit more expensive, but are easy to upgrade and you actually have a choice in what you want to do. Consoles are basically the feeding trough for users and the game companies are farmers, they will feed you what they want and all you have to do is eat it up.

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Warning: Very long, but detailed post below.

Consoles are a joke. It's a shame that they have some good exclusive games... those games are clearly limited by the console and more annoying to play. As ShortAlieN said, console hardware is extremely old and inferior. You can build a decent gaming PC for $600 or so. A lot more than consoles, but it costs less to upgrade one part of a PC than upgrading to a whole new console (unless you get an extremely powerful component).

Advantages of PC gaming are clear as day - the mouse is an extremely useful input device. Getting used to very high sensitivity on an analog stick is nearly impossible, while with a mouse, you can have far more sensitivity and aim much better in shooting games. With keyboards, you have so many keys whereas controllers have around ten buttons. There are games that use a lot more keys than there are buttons on a controller.

Input aside, PC games can run at much larger resolutions. PS3/XBOX 360 games run at 1280 x 720 and upscale to 1920 x 1080 interlaced which looks horrible. On PC you can run games on one monitor at up to 2560 x 1600, or go with multiple monitors. I run all of my games at 1920 x 1080 and it is a huge advantage in picture quality and clarity. And of course with a good PC, you'll achieve much higher frame rates than consoles (I don't like 30 FPS at all) with much better graphics quality.

PC games tend to have mod support, although how extensive depends on the game. Looking at popular multiplatform games, Battlefield 3 is one port that has virtually no mod support whatsoever. I don't know or care about Call of Duty, but Skyrim already has a ton of mods for it and the SDK for it hasn't even been released (it will be soon). Many other PC games including exclusive ones have mod support that will blow your mind. Not only are there new levels and gameplay changes, but total conversion mods as well. PC also has Steam which is way better than XBOX Live and Playstation Network (I have both a PS3 and 360 by the way).

There are some PC exclusive games that are so unique, you'll probably never see anything like it on consoles. An excellent example of this is the ArmA series. They are FPS combat simulators with so much content and gameplay features, and the sheer realism and scale (unrivaled level size), plus the graphics quality are something you won't see on this console generation. If you're into shooters, you'll only get realistic ones on PCs. Then there are flight simulators and racing simulators that outdo Gran Turismo, and SDKs for almost unlimited expansion.

PCs are also far more reliable if you choose quality parts and assemble it properly. Look around on forums and you'll see lots of complaints about dead consoles. Personally I've had one XBOX 360 and one PS3 fail on me. They are made with the cheapest possible components and such poor soldering jobs, with bad QC on top of it. I had to repair my old PS3 myself so all of this became apparent. PCs on the other hand give you freedom of choice in your components. I've had one of my mild gaming PCs running for about a decade with no issues. Consoles are the luck of the draw - I told you about my failures but then again, my N64 and SNES still work. :)

Consoles and their audiences also have a negative impact on the quality of games. If you've been gaming for as long as I have or longer (I really picked up games in 1996-1997), then you'll notice how dumbed down and over-simplified modern games are. They're not challenging, there is no thought involved, there is no effort in storyline or character development, and there is just no originality in most games. This applies to just about every genre. FPS is easily the most popular these days. What happened to them? What's with the 4 hour campaigns and exclusive focus on PvP multiplayer? The popular ones can't even do that correctly... terrible hit detection in CoD combined with extreme CQB maps, and a perk/streak system designed to let anybody do well. It is the definition of casual gaming. Battlefield 3 is just poorly balanced and too buggy. Admittedly there are some great modern FPS games, namely the ArmA series which are open world and quite unique, but for the most part this genre is dead to me. Every FPS game feels the same and extremely generic.

How about the horror genre? Are there even horror games anymore? Resident Evil 4 and 5, Dead Space, F.E.A.R, and Doom are nothing but shooters. No scares at all, no interesting atmosphere, no emphasis on plot or characters, nothing interesting. The only true horror games I've found in recent years are the Penumbra series and Amnesia (PC exclusives, mind you) but even those developers are planning to move to consoles and produce more garbage.

We'll see what happens to games when the next consoles come around. I assume we will get the same crap for a while, but with prettier graphics. PC is infinitely more valuable and has more worth than consoles. On consoles you get a dumbed down experience and you're really missing out on a lot. They were designed for casual gamers and for children (since it is cheaper for their parents to get for their birthday or Christmas), and the quality of the games as well as the console and content themselves show this.

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Thank you both for the info. I did some reading of my self and found out that what ever console fans say, PC is truly the best. I saw for myself a few days ago the difference in graphics. The Gamepad/Mouse+Keyboard wasn't really a problem for me since I don't ever play shooters and for my favorite games (PoP. SC, DMC, AC etc) I always used a Gamepad. I'm curious of what the new generation of consoles will bring to the world/market but from what I understand that will be sometime in 2013 or so.
Again, thanks for the feedback and opinions.

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I already saw the first video before posting. Since when I posted I found out a lot of stuff and yes, PC is the way to go if you really want to have fun. BUT (yes there is a but) a console is fun and cheaper on the average pocket. Hopefully when (I don't know when) the new consoles will pop up, they will step up their game and be more appealing.
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I've posted my message in the poll and I'll post it here just in case:

I would exclusively use consoles for gaming (FPS, JRPG, racing, adventure, anything I an think of) because PC games (except for The Last Remnant) that forces me to use keyboard and mouse just don't cut it for me. I'm not a huge fan of using W, S, A, and D and the mouse for movements. And I'm pretty much not a fan of online multiplayer gaming anyway.

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Just thought I would say that no console is ever "maxed out" game developers always find more efficient programming. I would say, if you have the money, build a pc.

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GraysonPeddie wrote:I've posted my message in the poll and I'll post it here just in case:

I would exclusively use consoles for gaming (FPS, JRPG, racing, adventure, anything I an think of) because PC games (except for The Last Remnant) that forces me to use keyboard and mouse just don't cut it for me. I'm not a huge fan of using W, S, A, and D and the mouse for movements. And I'm pretty much not a fan of online multiplayer gaming anyway.You can use a PS3/360 Style joypad, steering wheels, joysticks + rudder pedals, pretty much any style controller you want on the pc too, just a case of mapping the keyboard and mouse controls to buttons on the controller (something that the aformentioned console ports that are coming out these days are pretty pathetic at). Again a console is much easier for the average person opn both the pocket and setup, but a pc wins hands down on versatility and flexibility, I know i own both. Remember you can use a pc for alot more than gaming.

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Hmm... Pretty interesting that the quote appears inline instead of a block, making it hard to read. Next time, can you please separate the text from quote?

Anyway, versatility is nice for PC, but I don't care for that.

HTPC: AMD Athlon X2 4050e CPU with 780G ATX motherboard running Windows 8 DP (4GB) and Ubuntu; Server: AMD AII X2 240e CPU with 880G-based ATX motherboard running Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS (8GB)

2 pairs of Insignia NS-B2111s (front/rear), Pioneer SP-C21 Center Speaker, and 12" Velodyne Sub

Just ordered HP Pavilion dv7-6165us from QVC. Will have it by next Friday.