System not booting

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tweaty14
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i have these specs:
Gigabyte z68x-ud3h-b3
i5 2500k
HD 6970
CM silent pro 600W
Corsair vengeance 8gb 1600Mhz
500g 7200rpm HDD

so my problem is that when i turn on the pc, my system runs for abit and then it shuts down, and then it just goes in a cycle like that. i have been told that my PSU isnt big enough, and thats the problem. but i kinda need to be sure, and thats why im writing here.

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Clear the CMOS first. If it doesn't help, check the PSU. But specifically, what CM Silent Pro you got? Is it 80+ gold? Cause according to AMD, the 6970 will run without any issues, unless it's going to be overclocked.

http://support.amd.com/us/certified/power-supplies/Pages/details.aspx?item=511

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Is this a new build?

If so there are a couple of things that you can try. Try reseating your RAM, video card, and possibly your CPU. Like Ratchet said, make sure to clear your CMOS. If the PSU is not up to the task you would not be able to tell until you put it under load. It should be able to boot though. Also, check all your power connectors to make sure they are seated fully.

A lot of the time there is something that just needs to be checked and made sure that everything is fitted properly. If that does not work, then move on to checking individual parts. Start with the RAM and then the video card. If you have other parts around that you can swap out for trouble shooting problems, do it one at a time to make sure that everything works.

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When you turn it on.. are you coming out of sleep mode?

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Its not a silent pro gold. its Bronze. my pc is working a 100% without the graphics card in it, and there is no problems at all.

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It does sound like a hardware problem. Just to be sure though, are you able to go into safe mode and not experience this issue? If so, then check event viewer for the specific issue and paste it here so we can maybe help.

As others stated it could be a component like the RAM needing to be reseated etc. It could be the PSU yes. I did a quick and rough entry on a PSU calculator and it returned 488 W with what you listed. Having about 200 watts extra would be ideal if you can manage it since you have to consider the power draw when they are experiencing load, it will be different than their TDP values.

Hopefully it can be working just fine very soon. Sorry to hear about the troubles, I know that's frustrating. Let us know what's new with it when you're able to.

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i think i explained my problem wrong sorry. everything is working a 100% without the graphics card. but when i put it in, my computer just turns on for a few seconds, then it turns off, and then it turns on again, and it just tuns in a cycle...

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After putting in the graphics card, try resetting the CMOS.

It will look something like this on your motherboard and state "CMOS":

http://blog.thepcmechanic.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/cmos.jpg

You'll see it has 3 metal pieces, 2 connected by a piece of plastic. Turn off your PC, unplug it from the wall (hold your power button in for 10-15 seconds to drain residual power in the system), and remove the little piece of plaster and place it on the middle and outside metal piece that was not covered, leave for 10-15 seconds then remove it and place it back onto its original position. Plug your PC back in and try to start it. This will reset your BIOS and force the BIOS to re-gather information about the system and possibly fix your issue, I had a similar problem to this a couple months ago after a routine cleaning where I took my GPU out of the system.

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nope the resetting the BIOS did not work, but, it ran longer than before, so im almost a 100% sure now that its the PSU so im gonna overkill it with a 850W +gold PSU. i hope that will fix my problem... but ill see what happens, i think ill get it next monday or so...

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tweaty14 wrote:nope the resetting the BIOS did not work, but, it ran longer than before, so im almost a 100% sure now that its the PSU so im gonna overkill it with a 850W +gold PSU. i hope that will fix my problem... but ill see what happens, i think ill get it next monday or so...

I thought my PSU was going bad too, it took a couple tries and making sure everything was securely plugged in before it finally worked, I must've hit something loose getting dust out. Just saying, be absolutely sure because I was PO'd when my new PSU got here and it still wouldn't boot :P

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Goodluck, let us know! I hope that fixes the issue.

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So far I've seen good things here.. Reset Bios, Upgrade PSU ect.. Did you plug in the power to the video card? If these are new parts you might need to return motherboard, video card, psu and memory for another brand or type as there could be a compatibly here.

You're using the top PCIe x16 slot for your single graphics card right?
Also, the memory should be installed like so (assuming two sticks):
Slot 1 (closest to CPU): Empty
Slot 2: RAM
Slot 3: Empty
Slot 4: RAM

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/275856-30-gigabyte-guide

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yes i am using the PCIe x16 slot, but my RAM are
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empty
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empty
does it change anything if i place them as you suggest?

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The motherboard manual says.. "For optimum performance, when enabling Dual Channel mode with two memory modules, we recommend that you install them in the DDR3_1 and DDR3_2 sockets."

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do you have another system that you can put the video card in and see if it works?

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unfortunately not :S

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So, im back again with a little update. i changed my 600W bronze for a 850W gold. there is no change at all. my system is still running for about 20 seconds. then it turns off and turns on again. if any1 knows the source of this problem PLS reply to me. im very sad :D

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There was no need for you to change your power supply.

Try these steps:

0.5. Change your power cord (the one you pluy gou pc, monitor and other).

1. Motherboard Bios update (flash):
-if you have the rev 1.0 board http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3853#bios
-if you have the 1.3 board http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3973#bios
Please use CPU-Z to find out the board's revision.

2. Graphic card bios update (if there is one). You have to find the bios on your GPU manufacturers website.

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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/ssscreencapture003.png/
i think its easier to see for yourself than to explain it :D
thanks for all of u helping me out here, its much appreciated.

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Man you shouldn't have bought a new part without finalizing whats wrong with the system, if it runs flawlessly without the video card then that just might be your problem staring at you already. I'm pretty much convinced that your graphic card is the one at fault here.

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You need the F11 bios update. Please flash your bios.

Your GPU is from which manufacturer? Sapphire, XFX, Gigabyte, ...?

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its from Powercolor. i tried to flash the motherboard from a file, but it didnt work,.. i get the message
"cannot load rom image from bin file, maybe bin file size not match"
any1 know something about this issue?

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How to Flash a Gigabyte Motherboard BIOS Linus Tech Tips:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHN_QAEPeF8

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ok, so the newest one that i can download is a beta. shall i still get it?

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I think you should but thew choice is yours.

Can you try the videocard in a friend's PC? Or an other card in yours?

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good news, i may have a pretty good chance to try another graphics card in my PC, so ill see how that works out and then ill get back to you :D