Shopping 4 new case, suggestions?

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KoutaFG wrote: But here's a question, an 8 core cpu, if you have programs that will use 100% of its core, is a stock cpu heatsink good enough to keep it cool, I mean how hot does 8 cores get...

The heatsinks AMD is supplying are OK. They are small with a four-output airflow design (on the new Vishera cores), do a good job, but in general will not let you massively overclock the CPU. I'd be looking for something better if you are looking at pushing it hard.

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eire1274 wrote:KoutaFG wrote: But here's a question, an 8 core cpu, if you have programs that will use 100% of its core, is a stock cpu heatsink good enough to keep it cool, I mean how hot does 8 cores get...

The heatsinks AMD is supplying are OK. They are small with a four-output airflow design (on the new Vishera cores), do a good job, but in general will not let you massively overclock the CPU. I'd be looking for something better if you are looking at pushing it hard.

I've never overclocked anything and would not know where to begin, so no, I won't be overclocking but, I'm pretty sure blender while rendering will more then likely use 100% of all 8 CPUs, I talked to a few people that are a lot better at blender then I that say blender does use all 8 cores while rendering.

So even though I'm not going to be overclocking will the stock heatsink be able to keep the CPU cool?
Depending on what I'm rendering, render time can get up to 8 hours if not more, really depending how big of a project, really render time can be any length of time heh, days if not weeks even heh.

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Wow, newegg has never pissed me off so much, I've been waiting to get this case for 3 months and the day I planned to get it, today, the price jumps $20, plus the shipping went from $9.99 to $31.99, I contacted their support and they just fed me some BS, gah piss's me off, now I have to wait even longer before I can get the case or I guess I could just buy the 8 core cpu now, sell my the one I'm currently using and that'll give me a head start to getting the money for the case again, hopefully it'll be at the realistic price again by then....

Edit: As it stands if I wanted to get the AZZA Genesis 9000, I'd have to spend $211.99, which is very much messed up, when I WAS going to be paying $194.99 and that was with a 230mm fan, which also went out of stock the same time the price changed. *Head explodes*

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KoutaFG wrote: I've never overclocked anything and would not know where to begin, so no, I won't be overclocking but, I'm pretty sure blender while rendering will more then likely use 100% of all 8 CPUs, I talked to a few people that are a lot better at blender then I that say blender does use all 8 cores while rendering.

So even though I'm not going to be overclocking will the stock heatsink be able to keep the CPU cool?
Depending on what I'm rendering, render time can get up to 8 hours if not more, really depending how big of a project, really render time can be any length of time heh, days if not weeks even heh.

If you have good airflow and watch dust intake, then it will work fine with every core maxed out on Turbo.

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Alright, looks like I was able to get the case today after all, turns out Amazon had the case at the correct price and even better, I got free shipping on it, the difference is the rebate, newegg had a $20 one and Amazon has a $15 one, saying that I got free shipping with Amazon, saved me 10 bucks, so it made up that 5 and then some, so now I have a few more bucks towards that 8 core cpu!

So I paid only $159.99 for the case, I had 210 in the bank so what's left goes towards the 8 core CPU and that's gonna cost me $179.99 so it'll be a bit but I'll be getting a new 8 core cpu soon or later.

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eire1274 wrote:KoutaFG wrote: I've never overclocked anything and would not know where to begin, so no, I won't be overclocking but, I'm pretty sure blender while rendering will more then likely use 100% of all 8 CPUs, I talked to a few people that are a lot better at blender then I that say blender does use all 8 cores while rendering.

So even though I'm not going to be overclocking will the stock heatsink be able to keep the CPU cool?
Depending on what I'm rendering, render time can get up to 8 hours if not more, really depending how big of a project, really render time can be any length of time heh, days if not weeks even heh.

If you have good airflow and watch dust intake, then it will work fine with every core maxed out on Turbo.

Ah okay, thanks, is the stock cooling in the Azza G 900 good enough or should I get the rest of the fans it can take and if so, how should I set the push and pull air flow with the new fans?

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Always look for positive pressure. That is, more in than out. This prevents air intake "creep" (sneaking in through seams, side panel edges, etc.) and will guarantee you will avoid hot spots. I always make sure every intake fan is filtered, though, so you don't end up with dust bunnies taking over your CPU cooler.

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eire1274 wrote:Always look for positive pressure. That is, more in than out. This prevents air intake "creep" (sneaking in through seams, side panel edges, etc.) and will guarantee you will avoid hot spots. I always make sure every intake fan is filtered, though, so you don't end up with dust bunnies taking over your CPU cooler.

Yeah, that's one of the things on the top of my list, when I was looking into buying a case dust prevention, so eventually, I plan to buy a fan for every area the case has a mount for a fan, so two more 120mm and one 230mm,

I decided I was not getting them with this case and will get them after I've upgraded my CPU, for now the areas where there were no fans included for the case will stay empty and I might just tape over the areas or tape on square pieces of panty hoes to further prevent dust intake

but once I do get the two more 120mm fans, I'll buy two dust filters with them and get a pair of panty hoes to put one over the 230mm fan, later I plan to take a tupperware lid, a black one if I can find one and cut out the shape of the fan two time, cut the holes, then sandwiche a pantyho between the two pieces so that I won't have to screw off the entire fan to replace the home made filter

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I should be getting the Azza 9000B case in the mail on the 13th, I'll try and let you guys know how it goes.

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Well got the case and well, the case does not do well if shipped far from where it ends, the box was banged up but not as bad as most, no dents or scratches but I guess the case shaked and vibrated one of the back thumb screws and one of the screws that held the gpu support brackets, this lead the case side panel to scratch off the black paint at the top right and bottom right corner of the side panel off, its not too notice able when the case is closed but still, spent $160, even the littest things will annoy you when you spend that much, though I won't let it annoy me long enough to decide to spend the $50 or so to ship it back, though I will mention it to Azza support when I get the chance, I doubt it but if they'd send me a replacement side panel, they could very well earn me as a customer for life.

Oh and it was missing one more thumb screw in the back, though this could be due to what I think the shipping guys did, it looked like they took another box, cut a square, cut handles in them then taped them into the box, in another words, they opened the box, to strengthen the case's box handles.

The reason why I think the screws were missing/fell off, and not a fault on Azza's part, is because I've watched I'd say about 12 reviews of this case and in two of them, the same exact screws where missing or in the box and not in the case like they were suppose to, though it could be said that Azza needs to make sure these screws need to be tighten into the case better before they ship them, I mean heh two of the front screws are so tight I couldn't use just my thumbs.

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Well, got every thing installed and its all running fine, heh, much quieter, its nice to have the larger fans that pull more air and make less noise then the many 120mm fans I had in my old case, my only issue now is that my case's window faces away from me so if I ever need to open it, to clean it, I'll have to swing it around, I would just have it on the other side of my desk but then my monitor wouldn't be right in front of me so hm, I'll have to think about that issue for a bit but so far so good, the only hard part in the install, was the power supply, it wouldn't quite go in and of course I pushed harder and well apparently it was just stuck in something and slam, it when in but not before smashing my left index finger heh, dented the nail and now it has some coloring under the nail, ouch but worth the pain, the case looks huge next to my 23 inch monitor, huge!!

Oh I guess I could echo this but the plastic um, locks? for the drive bays, the plastic feels super cheep, feels like the kind of plastic you'd find at the dollar tree from some cheap toy made in so sweat shop or something heh but they didn't brake like them, as in they didn't brake at all but still, not a big con but one worth saying something about.

Typing this, I'm noticing all the sounds my old case's fans blocked out, its so odd lol.

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Glad you like it. I missed upgrading this year because I was waiting for processors to develop, hoping I can build a whole new rig in that same case soon!

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eire1274 wrote:Glad you like it. I missed upgrading this year because I was waiting for processors to develop, hoping I can build a whole new rig in that same case soon!

I feel like I'd suggest getting the 230mm fan when you buy the case, I decided not to and my temps are 6c higher then in my old case that had I think it was a 200mm fan on the side and all I've done today is watch a few videos on youtube, I mean their not temps to worry about but still, expected to see better temps in this case from the start o.o

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Just got done adding filters to the 120mm fans and ordered the 230mm fan after all.

I have to say though, the fans that come with the case, are pretty weak, there is a good chance I'll replace all of them in the future, before they stop working.

I plan to get two more 120mm fans too, cause where the two you can add, its letting a lot of unfiltered air into the case, it has this large honey comb thing going on and stops no air, what so ever.