Ram Help

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raw157
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Hey Guys,

Up until today, I thought I could figure all things tech out, but I guess even the best fall.

Long story short: I had 4 gigs DDR3, and I bought 4 more gigs. I go to put them in, load into windows and I blue screen. So I upped the voltages and tried again; same result. I took a stick out (6 gigs), and I get the same result. Then back to 4, and my computer just cycles the MoBo screen over and over again. I flashed the bios, didn't work. I selected by boot device (F11), and it loaded windows.

I'm in windows now, safely but with 4 gigs I'm lagging in game; and I never lagged before with 4 gigs.

The memory is the exact same specs all around, only one is version 2.5 and and the other is 6.1. I have a 2.5 and a 6.1 in together now, and it's not crashing on me. I just did a stress test and it was fine.

Ideas on getting the 8 gigs to work?

Thanks,
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What model/brands of motherboard and sticks of memory are using? Mixing memory can some times have that effects. When left in Auto the motherboard should select the slowest running speed of the memory sticks. You might need to read the motherboard manual and see what the latency settings should be with 8Gb and the slots it wants those sticks put into. Based on what I see you had 4GB, so I think that means you have 2 x 2GB and you got 2 more sticks or 2GB each. So you should have 4 sticks of 2GB and possible 4 or 6 slots for system memory. More sticks of memory means more load on the motherboard and thus possibly a lower running speed for compatibility. However, I don't know of any games that run slow with 4GB of ram.

You flashed the BIOS. After flashing, you will need to find the settings that Load Defaults. Might even be a good idea to remove the Motherboard battery for a few minutes. And if you want, read the motherboard manual to locate the CMOS pin and cross it. Reason for this is that after a bios flash old information is left in the CMOS chip and it needs to be purged out for accept the new bios information. After that go back into the bios and select the boot order. Check to make sure the memory is running near the speed and check the CPU running speed.

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raw157
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All the ram sticks are Corsair XMS2 at 800MHz. You are correct, there are 4 2 gig sticks, with 4 slots in total.

After I flashed the bios, I did pop the battery and and moved the pins over as well. I tried to load the bios in fail-safe defaults but it didn't work.

That lag seems to be out of my system; no idea what was going on.

If I were to put just one of the new sticks in (2 gigs), and the computer blue screened, would it be a good bet that the ram is DOA?

Thanks
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Tiv
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So they are the same other than revision but the old works and new does not work? Hmmm.. might be DOA on the new sticks. What does the Blue screen say?

With the new sticks in, can you run a memtest86 scan with a bootable CD?

http://www.memtest86.com/
http://www.memtest86.com/memtest86-3.5a.iso.zip

raw157
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I'll give it a shot.

I'm in windows pretty solid now, but when I restart, I still have to select which drive to boot from. It's like the mobo doesn't pick up the drive until I tell it where it's at.

I'll try the memtest later on and see what happens.

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Any luck?

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raw157
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The ram is DOA, I'm returning it to tiger, and they're gonna replace it.

Any idea on the booting?

Tiv
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The bios should remember your settings, if not then flash back to the older bios that worked.

raw157
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Okay, thanks for all your help guys? I tried to boot with only a single stick of the new ram, and blue screened; thus I think it's DOA.

I think I got the boot sequence down now; or at least I hope.

If it's still messed up after I get new sticks, I'll be back lol

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i am getting this ram Kingston HyperX T1 Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) is this good for my system
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104240
this is my timing is 9-9-9-24 i dont want a bottleneck i just want to know the timing for this ram

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Good luck... even with "good" brands you can get dead DIMMs.

In the future, when this happens, remove the old DIMMs and install the new ones, and see if the system boots. Also, even with like models, you can get into situations where one set has a different CAS delay time than others, and some boards (depending on chipset limitations) still act weird if slots 1&2 are faster than 3&4; they try to run everything at the speed detected on the first two slots, or may try to run multichannel on two different speeds (again, depending on the board) which usually won't boot at all.

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3dgamemandrew resurrected an old thread...

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lol