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(There are new questions I have asked at the end of this thread, any help would be nice.)

Okay, I just can't make up my mind, so asking for a bit of help.

Okay, lets say you have the following hardware currently.

Mobo:MSI 785FT - E63 (MS-7551
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 945e
4 1gig sticks running at either 600 something or 800
GPU Nvidia Geforce GTX 260 (That can't do directx 11)
Hardrive: Hitachi HD T725040VLA380 ATA 400GIG
Onboard network card

you have $170 USD, you have the choice to spend that money and upgrade one or more parts or buy a second 23 inch monitor, what would you do, what would you upgrade?

I'm having a hard time deciding, on one hand, I want to replace my old ram with two 2gig sticks of ram and replace my old hardrive with a 500 to 1TB WD-hardrive

on another hand I wonna replace the video card because I have my suspicions that my current GPU is over heating, my computer has shut down twice on its own while playing games.... I think, at least one of the times, plus I want directx 11.

Then lastly, I want to get a second 23 inch monitor, so I can have one screen showing my 3D modeling program and on the other, a picture of what I am trying to sculpt/mesh and or a movie, chat messenger/chat program.

Oh! and you have to shop at best buy >_>

Thanks ahead of time for any and all info you can give.

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Why do yo have to shop at best buy and not an e-tailer?

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k1llg0r3 wrote:Why do yo have to shop at best buy and not an e-tailer?

Cause I don't have their credit card lol

Otherwise I would heh, that and I don't care for shipping and having to wait...

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Is creditcard the only option? I usually order by banktransfer.

New RAM sticks would be a waste in my opinion.. even faster sticks will not give a noticeable improvement.

I was thinking upgrading the harddrive because you say it's ATA, but a googlesearch showed it's already a SATA?

Video card is an option, but overheating issues can also be fixed instead of buying a new one, perhaps just by removing some dust. By the way, it could also be your CPU overheating. Why don't you monitor the temps to be sure, for CPU I use Speedfan but most people prefer Realtemp, and for video card temps you can use GPU-Z.

I'd get a new monitor to be honest, I wouldn't buy a new video card just for the little extras of DX11.

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hnkftalnot wrote:Is creditcard the only option? I usually order by banktransfer.

New RAM sticks would be a waste in my opinion.. even faster sticks will not give a noticeable improvement.

I was thinking upgrading the harddrive because you say it's ATA, but a googlesearch showed it's already a SATA?

Video card is an option, but overheating issues can also be fixed instead of buying a new one, perhaps just by removing some dust. By the way, it could also be your CPU overheating. Why don't you monitor the temps to be sure, for CPU I use Speedfan but most people prefer Realtemp, and for video card temps you can use GPU-Z.

I'd get a new monitor to be honest, I wouldn't buy a new video card just for the little extras of DX11.

Yeah, I didn't think about my CPU overheating because its the newest part in my computer but so far as I can tell, its not my CPU overheating, it idols so far at about 26-28, under about %40 load it sits at about 38c, my GPU at this time sits at about 57C but its fan is set to automatic but never goes past 14% in speed so I bump up the speed with Ntune to %50 and it goes down to 52c

Maybe I'll actually take out my GPU and clean it, instead of cleaning it while its still in the computer.

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New quick question, will a PCI-E 2.1 video card work/go in a mother board with a PCI-E 2.0 slot, I never tried to understand that bit, so will it?

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Another question, if you could recommend a GPU cooler, for a XFX GTX 260 BE, what would it be, I'm starting to think that it's my video card that's over heating, I mean, I check the temp after I play a game and its always at near or over 70c That's hot, right?

Or does it sound like that might make it worth slightly upgrading video card?

Right now I am using XFX's GTX 260 with the specs,

Model - GX260NADBF

Interface
PCI Express 2.0 x16
Chipset
Chipset Manufacturer
NVIDIA
GPU
GeForce GTX 260
Core Clock
666MHz
Stream Processors
216 Processor Cores
Memory
Effective Memory Clock
2300MHz
Memory Size
896MB
Memory Interface
448-bit
Memory Type
GDDR3
3D API
DirectX
DirectX 10
OpenGL
OpenGL 2.1
Ports
HDMI
1 x HDMI (via Adapter)
DVI
2 x DVI
TV-Out
HDTV / S-Video Out
General
RAMDAC
400 MHz
Max Resolution
2560 x 1600
RoHS Compliant
Yes
SLI Support
3-Way SLI
Cooler
With Fan
System Requirements
Non-SLI: 630W Minimum Power Supply
SLI: 680W Minimum Power Supply
Power Connector
2 x 6 Pin
Dual-Link DVI Supported
Yes
HDCP Ready
Yes
Packaging
Package Contents
GX260NADBF
Driver Disk
User's Manual
HDTV Cable
Power Cable
DVI to VGA/D-sub Adapter
DVI to HDMI Adapter
S/PDIF Cable

I have had this video card for almost 2 years now, so its had enough time to begin to fail I guess...

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Could any one tell me?

I want to get a video card that's PCI Express 2.1 x16 but my motherboard says it only has a PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot, does that .1 stop it from working in a 2.0 slot or will a PCI Express 2.1 x16 work fine in a PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot?

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Also, I narrowed it down to these three cards, could someone please suggest any one of these, I'm both a hardcore gamer and a 3d art person but mainly gaming, FPS games and some MMO games and second life, for any one who knows about it, I'm on it every day.

Pick 1
XFX - ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 PCI Express Graphics Card

Model: HD-577A-ZNF | SKU: 9715752

Pick 2
XFX - ATI Radeon HD 6750 1GB DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 Graphics Card

Model: HD-675X-ZMFR | SKU: 2292648

Pick 3
EVGA - GeForce GTX 460 SE 1GB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 Graphics Card

Model: 01G-P3-1366-TR | SKU: 2389225

I'm really thinking about one of the ATI cards and I know enough to see what one is better, I just feel like I might of missed something that could change my mind, any help will be much appreciated.

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pick option 4
EVGA - GeForce GTX 560 Ti

i know they have this in store at best buy. Oh in case u didn't know best will price match with their online prices.

pci 2.1 card will work in a 2.0 slot or even a 1.1

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noir2525 wrote:pick option 4
EVGA - GeForce GTX 560 Ti

i know they have this in store at best buy. Oh in case u didn't know best will price match with their online prices.

pci 2.1 card will work in a 2.0 slot or even a 1.1

Ah well, I only have a $182 price limit so a 560 Ti is well out of my price range heh, though I'd love one, that's for sure . . .

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My price range just went up to 189.99 so I have a few more video cards to select from, includeing maybe a GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB GDDR5, though best buy has theres price over 200, a lot of those sites including newegg has them sold as low as 130 something, so those could be a choice,

Any one else think I should get a GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB GDDR5 over maybe a Radeon HD 6850 1GB or a GeForce GTX 460 and other cards in that price range?

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I have come down to two video cards, the

ASUS EAH6850 DC/2DIS/1GD5/V2 Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

and the,
EVGA 01G-P3-1370-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

If you had to pick one or the other, what one would you pick, I'm thinking the Asus but a good friend of mine said the EVGA, so I am having a hard time deciding.