[Q] Building a PC for the first time.

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MissileMoose
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Hello, I have a few questions about a gaming rig I'm going to build.

Here are the parts I'm looking to buy:

Case: Coolermaster HAF X
Motherboard: Asus Crosshair IV Formula AMD 890FX (Socket AM3) DDR3
Processor: AMD Phenom II X6 Six Core 1090T Black Edition 3.20GHz (Socket AM3)
RAM: G.Skill RipJaw 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 1333MHz Dual Channel Kit
PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro Modular 1000W Power Supply
CPU Cooler: CoolIT Vantage Liquid CPU Cooler
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM
Optical Drives: X2 - LG GH22LS50 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter Lightscribe Drive - OEM
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit

This comes to around £1,145.75 - Inc VAT and Shipping.
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I want to spend in total £1,300.

Questions:
- What graphics card should I get?
- Are all of the parts I listed compatible?

Any other comments are welcome, thanks.

MissileMoose

svins
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All the parts are pretty high - end, so I think that HD5870 would be great (if you can afford it).

MissileMoose
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I'm some what of a n00b when it comes to building computers, but the 'Cooler Master Silent Pro Modular 1000W' says Single +12V rail for up to 80A for high demanding SLI would I be able to run lets say two HD 5870s on CrossFireX with this PSU and maybe whole setup? Not sure if anything I said made sense. :/

Best Regards
Missile

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Axe the 6 core-it is not for gaming. Get a 955 and put the money towards one 5870. That should just make your budget.
You should also downgrade the power supply and do not get a second 5870. Unless you have three HD monitors or more, a second 5870 will only bring you grief involving micro-stuttering and driver issues while costing you a lot more money.

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The hexa core amd cpu is good choice u can OC it to get more performance than a 955

You might want to consider the Lian Li Lancool PC-K62R1 for ur case and save the $$. It’s completely tool-less design. The pci bracket hold downs are not a joke unlike other brands. There is a youtube video of an hd4890 held in place just by linear hold downs no mobo to help support it. The interior is red very nice. Front and top bezel can just be pulled off. Even the psu need no screws : )

Lian Li Lancool PC-K60(PC-K62R1 is just red interior) http://www.youtube.com/user/MonsterMawd#p/u/24/U2MdUGxWEcU

As for the video card Sapphire toxic 5850 2gb should more than enough.
Reason is simple 60hz monitor is only able to show 60fps. Image distortion occurs if it exceeds it. So if ur monitor is 120hz u can get 120fps. If ur going to say well fraps shows more fps then ur are wrong fraps show how many frames ur card is making but only 60 get shown on the monitor, thus image distortion occur when 2 or more frames to get shown on the monitor at the same time. Vsync helps match ur video card output to ur monitors refresh rate.

Might want to change ur ram to the Gskill flare series RAM since they were design for AMD.

With the spare change upgrade the WD black hdd to a veloci

U can also change it to 1 dvd reader and 1 dvd burners helps save a few $, hardly anyone ever burns to things at the same time.

Cool it is okay band considering the coolit domino was notorious for pipes breaking and leaking. Might want to change to corsair H70 or u can try a thermalright venomous X which is what I use.

SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply should be enough. Going overboard one psu is not good considering that psu are the most efficient at 50% load. Another thing to note is that recommended wattage of a psu that video card manufactures recommend is under the assumption that ur psu is not 80% efficient

3 thing to ask ur self before u buy it.
Do I need it?
Is it worth the Extra $$$?
What do I gain from getting it?

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Don't for get about a sound card and good headset or speakers. Going cheap on these makes gaming less immersive, It's no suprise that when people in invest in a good sound card and speakers or headset that they are amazed at what their ears where missing (its called ear candy). A gaming rig is not complete without one.

I mean eye candy is great and all but hearing foot steps and gunfire give u the edge to know where they are without seeing them. I often get accused of hacking because of that, because i can instantly tell where u are just by one shot of ur gun. It really does give u the edge u need. so get them if don't have them.

FYI: common mistake people do when buying head phones is get a high Impedance: 250 ohms headphone and have a sound card with out a AMP built in. In order to get the true sound quality out of a high impedance headphones(also called "cans" instead of headphones by audiophiles) u need a headphone amp.

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All the parts you have chosen are great. Keep the PSU! Why would you want to put a 750W PSU? 1kW is much better for future upgrading. Again, if you can afford HD5870 - it`s way to go.

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Its not needed to have 1k psu unless ur load is 500watt avg and if it is 80% efficient that ur draw from the wall 600watts and usable power is 500watt.

2nd reason is if u really do pull 1k power from the wall can ur house wiring really handle the load? The breaker panel, u better check it make sure.

And as for future proofing with that is not very smart when a 90% efficient psu come out then it just make more sense to get that. If u pay a electric bills u would know that.

MissileMoose
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Hmm, I probably will now go with the Corsair H70 as I'm now really scared that the CoolIt it will bust all over my system.

I already watched a few reviews of the motherboard and people say the inbuilt sound card is good, I also have the amBX speaker set: http://tech2.in.com/media/images/img_4995_ambx_hq_w.jpg

Along with a Turtle Beach X11 (I have that on my head all the time).

I really want to stay with 6 Cores though, why would that be bad for gaming?

Thanks.

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MissileMoose wrote:Hmm, I probably will now go with the Corsair H70 as I'm now really scared that the CoolIt it will bust all over my system.

I already watched a few reviews of the motherboard and people say the inbuilt sound card is good, I also have the amBX speaker set: http://tech2.in.com/media/images/img_4995_ambx_hq_w.jpg

Along with a Turtle Beach X11 (I have that on my head all the time).

I really want to stay with 6 Cores though, why would that be bad for gaming?

Thanks.
Amd compromised on the six cores and spit the same amount of L3 cache they used to use for 4 into 6 cores so when a game only uses 2 or 4 cores it does not get all the L3 that it would from a quad core. Thus performance drops 10-15% despite you paying almost double for the processor. And you did says a gaming cpu so I am assume that is your primary use of the computer.

MissileMoose
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There should be some upsides to having six cores though, maybe I could overclock to gain the 10-15% performance drop back?

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No, you will not get it back. It will help with multi-tasking and better encoding.

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game performance relies partly on cache size, having 6 cores on the same amount of cache as the 4 cores gives you less cache per core, thus a lower performance ingame

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GET A MSI GTX 460 1GB HAWK. or at least a GTX 460 1GB.
Get a Phenom 965
Get a lower end motherboard.

scan.co.uk & aria.co.uk are the best wesbites to look at. scan.co.uk is usually cheaper in graphics and mostly the same in everything else. Also try kustompcs.co.uk for some cool PC Mods :)