Problems with AHCI & Drives on my rig

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I installed Win 7 64 bit on my OCZ SSD "It was in IDE mode in the bios during the OS install", then plugged in my 1TB westen digital.
I changed the SATA to AHCI mode later on & fixed the driver issue with the "http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976", which took away the BSOD.

However, when I boot my system now I see that the SSD, Western Digital HDD, & the DVD writer "All the media drives", as if they are removable drives. In other words, it shows me as if they are connected via USB. Also giving me the option of safely remove even on my main boot SSD drive.

Basically my SSD, DVD, & HDD are detected as if they are connected via USB as it shows in the system tray!!!
PS This happened after I enabled the AHCI in my bios & used the Microsoft KB fix.

Sorry for the redundancy of information but, I just wanted to be as clear as possible.

"THX in advance for hnkftalnot for his post :)"

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The fastest way to correct this error is to reinstall your OS:
- check if AHCI is enabled in the BIOS;
- install your OS (format the partition first);
- after installation, install the lastest chipset/AHCI drivers.

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After I posted this I already tried reinstalling my OS "Win 7 64 bit". I reinstalled it cause I wanted to do a clean install with the AHCI enabled in the BIOS. Hence, I wouldnt have to use the hotfix on microsoft.
Surely, after ebery OS install I install the chipset drivers "X58 in this case", VGA, etc..

Alas, still the same thing.

PS I used secure erase on my SSD to make sure that everything is wiped out properly before reinstalling windows.

However, if you'de like I can give it another shot if you think there is something else I should do.

I'm facing so many problems on this PC but I thought to solve each one at a time

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I have seen this before on XP and Vista. Trust me you could not unmount those drives even if you wanted to, try and you will see. I think it's more of a problem with the drivers of the SATA chipset. It's more or less a problem of appearance rather than anything else and it should run just fine. Try going to the Device Manger and select disk drives, then right click on the hard drives and choose the properties then policies. Tick optimize for performance and see if that stops the safely remove icon.

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Can you give me the model of your motherboard?

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Sorry for the delayed response "I'm having many problems with this build so PLS bear with me;

Below you'll find an attached copy detailing my motherboard specs

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Intel has AHCI/RAID drivers that can be installed during the setup of Windows 7. You can download these at:
http://tiny.cc/wl3n4

After download you could save the file on your USB-stick. You will need them during installation of Windows 7.

So:
- check if AHCI is enabled in the BIOS;
- install your OS (format the partition first) and load the above F6 AHCI-driver during setup;
- after installation, install the lastest Intel chipsetdrivers.

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Jesus, Does that mean that I have to make a third format :)?

Can you PLS tell me how to Reformat the SSD Drive? "OCZ vertex 2 90GB"

BTW, I ralized that on the "read me" page that you sent me. They are saying that I have to install the chipset drivers before the Intel Rapid Storage Technology.

Don't know if it makes any difference but it goes like this:
"The 'Intel(R) Chipset Software Installation Utility'
must be installed prior to installing
Intel(R) Rapid Storage Technology"

One more thing if I am to install the chipset drivers, RST,etc.. from the USB by pressing the F6 during the install that means that I have to enable the Floppy disk controllers or something similair to that in the bios, Right?

long post & asking for lots of information some of them are noob questions but, I really appreciate the support.
Seriously Thanks man

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Hi,
It's been a while but had to RMA a few things. Yet, I still need your support PLS.

So you want me to do the following:
Format the SSD
Clean install of Win. 7 64bit & during the install to press F6 & install the file you sent me, right??

BTW, I ralized that on the "read me" page that you sent me. They are saying that I have to install the chipset drivers before the Intel Rapid Storage Technology.

Don't know if it makes any difference but it goes like this:
"The 'Intel(R) Chipset Software Installation Utility' i.e. Chipset Drivers
must be installed prior to installing
Intel(R) Rapid Storage Technology"

"If it doesn't make any difference PLS tell me"

So do you think that this will solve the issue of my drives appearing as if they are connected via USB??

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I don't think you have to reinstall the OS, Windows should have detected the AHCI mode and installed the drivers already.

So first, check if the drivers are there. As you can see in the readme file (section 4.6) there should be AHCI drivers listed under "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers" in Device Manager. Are they there?

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It's true as you said the drivers are there but, the problem is that all my drives "DVD, SSD, HDD" are being detected as if they are plugged via a USB. I have the "Safe Romove icon" in the system tray.

To be honest, I am worried about my SSD all these installs & uninstalls & reinstalls.

I'm gonna give it a shot like I was told:
Reinstall the OS "win7 64bit"
During installation press F6 & install the Intell Rapid Storage Technology. Upon completion of the OS install I'll install the chipset drivers, VGA drivers "in that order". Do you think this is the correct thing to do??

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Yeah that sounds like the right order.

But I still find it strange.. maybe there's something else wrong.. are you sure the SSD and all are connected to the first SATA ports, and not an eSATA port?

Maybe the AHCI drivers need an update, have you tried this online update app?
http://www.intel.com/support/detect.htm

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Yeah I'm sure. I did connect the SSD to the First Sata Channel. WD HDD & the DVD drive to the 2nd.

Man there are lots of strange weird things happening on this rig. I am only mentioning here one of my MANY problems.

BTW, I have a 2 digit LED screen on my Motherboard. Anyone knows where I can check what these codes mean. I've searched & came up with nothing about the codes.

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The codes should be in the motherboard manual.. Maybe you should return the motherboard and buy something else?

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They aren't anywhere in the manual "I searched every where".
Trust me if I had the chance to return the Motherboard I would have already done that.

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Was looking for this motherboards info. Seems you have a real lemon on your hands. Making matters worse the board is Discontinued. I believe this mobo goes by the name of ZOTAC in America.

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lool
Yeah you got that right
Does the fact that it's Discontinued makes it a bad board??

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I'm kind of going back over what is said here to see if we failed from the start. AHCI (Advanced Host Controller Interface) enables native command queuing and hot-plugging through SATA host controllers (Serial-ATA) for your hard drives. And that is why the drives appear to be hot swappable. What you want is perhaps IDE mode.

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Artman wrote:lool
Yeah you got that right
Does the fact that it's Discontinued makes it a bad board??

In my line of business this means the motherboard maker wiped their hands of the problem and simply walked away.

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"walked Away!!!" GOD I hope NOT lool

I don't think thats the case cause I have AHCI on other rig "Gigabyte board that takes Core2-Quad". It's working like a charm.

Maybe this will help "main sys components":
Case: Thermaltake Element V
Motherboard: This LEMON over here
CPU: I7 950
Booting HDD: OCZ Vertex2 SSD 90GB
Data HDD: Western Digital 1TB Black Edition 64MB cach with Sata 3 "surely it works backwars to sata 2 on my rig"
Rams: Triple Channel 6GB 2X3 "Corsair DDR3 1600 Model CMX6GX3M3A1600C9"
Video Card: Gigabyte GTX470 "http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3618#ov"
As said before The SSD is on the First Sata on the motherboard & the HDD & the DVD drive is on the 2nd Sata
All on Win 7 64bit with the latest drivers.
I am now going to test the install method I talked about "pressing F6 during install..." As soon as I get my system to boot. Yup its not booting now

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I thought Artman was trying to enable TRIM for his SSD, which requires AHCI? Perhaps try RAID mode if AHCI keeps giving problems (just make sure you don't actually combine drives into a RAID array).

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I'm thinking Ebay motherboard and get something else. Must release the demons.. lol

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Guys I'm gonna need your opinion here:
I was given a choice by the seller to exchange the motherboard above to a Foxconn-FlammingBlade-GTI. However, I am afraid that it may not be compatible with my GTX470 card. As I have read somewhere that it's not compatible with the 400 series.
Can you PLS give me your opinion

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A quick google told me this Foxconn board doesn't have RAID and also can only do crossfire, not SLI. So I don't see why one GTX470 wouldn't work, where did you read that?

Is this the same seller that sold you your current board? Because I'm not sure if I would trust him anymore. But that depends a little on the communication and all.. and perhaps anything is better than keeping this board with all it's problems.

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"and perhaps anything is better than keeping this board with all it's problems."
Thats what driving me to get the Foxconn; after all its not that much of a board.
You might wanna check this about the compatibility:
"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186170&cm_re=flammingblad_gti-_-13-186-170-_-Product"

There was one review saying that he wasnt able to boot the board on his GTX470. Tried to confirm with Foxconn but it seems hard to get incontact with their support. Moreover, I have a GTX470 that's overclocked to 480 by Gigabyte.

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hmmmm that guys post was back in 7/24/2010.

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But over here... copy paste

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=658784

You'll need to flash to the latest Beta BIOS 8CBF1G26 dated 06/23/2010 in order to run the Fermi, which you can download directly from Foxconn here...

Flamingblade GTI Beta BIOS Update_8CBF1G26.BIN
http://www.quantum-force.net/

... or if the Beta BIOS link isn't on the front page anymore:

http://www.quantum-force.net/down.aspx?down=1
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I'm still not 100% sure it's worth the trade...

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"I'm still not 100% sure it's worth the trade..."

Care to explain PLS

THX man

In all honesty I'm a little scared of this BIOS update thingy via the DOS. I'm a hardware guy not a software fan :)

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Well you pointed out that there is a possibility the video card is not compatible and you lose options such as SLI and Raid. If he will give you the board to test out first then that might work, otherwise just pony up the cash and get an Asus, EVGA or Gigabyte motherboard. I've found myself in the same tight spots before with motherboards. Unfortunately for me I don't sell the parts, I destroy them in my fiery rage. :)

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Anyway, when you had everything installed with ACHI (For Trim Right?)and the drives show up as removable at the bottom, did you ever try installing the latest Intel Matrix Storage Manager? http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng

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"Unfortunately for me I don't sell the parts, I destroy them in my fiery rage. :) looool"
THX I really needed that laugh

I wanted AHCI cause I read on the OCZ instructions/forums that its always better to install the SSD with AHCI enabled.
Fankly speaking I still haven't had the chance to reinstall windows your way cause I am still working on my booting problems. I've RMAed two PSUs so far & now I am on XFX 850W.
Surely, when I get the system to boot "which might be in a few hours". I will reformat the SSD & reinstall windows like you told me. I'm just a little confused if I just make an ordinary format to reinstall Windows for the 3rd time on the SSD.

PLS correct me if I am wrong:
During Win 7 install I'll press F6 & have the Rapid Storage Technology on a flash & highlight AHCI , right?

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Wait, if it doesn't even boot then you have some other problems aside from drivers/software. Boot means that the motherboard recognizes all the connected hardware OK and then proceeds to launch the operating system from the HDD or SSD.

If your current setup doesn't even do that, it's a hardware problem. I think you've ruled out the PSU since you're on the third.. and going by your problems, it really seems the motherboard is just living it's own life when it feels like. I'd demand a refund or get the Foxconn. At least that one has more resale value.