A long lasting gaming and multi-purpose rig?

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dlf
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I want to buy a new computer, will be built - not prebuilt bought. Current specs and what I want in a new system.

Current specs:
CPU: AMD Athlon 3800+ (dual core) @ 2 GHZ
RAM: DDR2 - 3 GB
HD 250 GB connected by ATA
Motherboard: Asus A8N-BR (Pyrite)
GPU: Nvidia gForce 6150 LE (I think)
Misc: This computer is a HP slimline (s7700n)

And what I wanted in a new system:

Hardware

- USB 2.0 speeds that are minimum of 30 MB a second
- USB 3.0 speeds that are at lest 300+ MB/s [I will get / use an SSD]
- Firewire (and or eSata port) --- because I have a external hardrive that has both along with USB
- At lest a solid terabyte (1.5 TB)
- Has either a VGA or DVI port (current monitor I have has both)
- Also has support for HDMI (for the future monitor)
- Multicard reader (although I mainly need SD and Memory Pro Stick Duo)
- Able to use a PS3 controller AND A XBOX 360 controller (yes I know 360 is native support . . .)
- I would like a quad core.
- Multiple internal DVD drives - one blu-ray drive (watch movies, burn backups)
- Plenty of 3.5/5.25 drive bays . . .

Software

- Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit) (Main OS) -- Mostly for languages
- Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit (if needed)
- Windows XP (if 64 bit won't run some of the games I have) (if needed)
- Folding@home (although I use my PS3 for that when I'm not using it)
- Able to run most games from DOS era on, probably high settings

Gaming Software:

- Will use steam:
-- Elder Scrolls
-- Portal 1 & 2
-- Batman Arkham (Asylum/City)
-- Sonic Generations
-- Quake
-- Wolfenstein (3D)
-- Commander keen
-- Bioshock (1/2)
- L.A. Noire
and others

- Will use CD/DVD's of the games I have:
-- Warcraft 2 - Tides of Darkness & Beyond the Dark Portal
-- Warcraft 3 - Reign of Chaos & Frozen Throne
-- Diablo 1 - 3 (when it comes out)
-- The Sims 1 - And all expansions
-- The Sims 2 (probably)
-- Simcity 4000 & Rushhour
- May use emulation (to run up to the PS2/Wii)

Other Thoughts

- I WANT UEFI (GUI), NOT BIOS (no gui)
- Eventually a dual monitor setup.
- Budget - Within about $1200 - $1500 dollars (American)
- I will wait for some parts (hard drives, GPU, etc) to drop in price.
- I don't need the absolute latest but this system should still be update-able in years to come and last a long time.
- Will eventually most likely want 16, 32 or more GB of RAM.
- I know I will get comments on get (or stick) with Home Premium - I have HP (32/64 bit)

I am grateful for input . . .

david179057
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hmm

i7 2600k $320

ASUS P8P67 DELUXE $200

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB $60

amd radeon 7970 $550

OCZ ZT Series 750W Fully-Modular psu $80

cm 690 ll $70

OCZ Agility 3 120gb boot drive $130

Western Digital Caviar Black 1.5 tb $150

thats about $1560 without windows and dvd drive

you could get the save and get the ASUS P8P67 PRO version $160

also the amd radeon 7950 and save $100 there

hope that helps

Asus P8P67 Deluxe : i7 2600k : Corsair Vengeance 8 GB 1600
Asus GTX 560 Direct Cu II OC : Corsair H100
Kingston Hyper X 3K 120 GB : WD Caviar Black 1 TB : Windows 7 Home Premium
OCZ ZT 750W PSU : CM 690 II

hellblazer55
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Well one thing you will still have to get a OS disk period, what comes with the HP machine is a single machine license and HP does something with the bios on every one of their machines (which includes compaqs since XP hit the floor) that if you try the disc in another machine its gonna reject the HP windows key.

AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 3.1GHz 189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103961
there is a patch for the 8 core processor for windows 7

ASUS Crosshair V Formula AM3+ Open box 164.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131735R

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231538

EVGA GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 419.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130587
or
EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 249.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130610

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX850 V2 850W 134.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139022
Little more money but more reliable

Corsair Force Series 3 149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233206
Sandy Bridge controller is better and costs a bit more but worth it.

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1502FAEX 1.5TB 149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136793

LG Black Super Multi Blu-Ray 79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136241

LG DVD Burner 18.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136236

ASUS USB-BT211 Mini Bluetooth Dongle USB 2.0 12.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320057

As for a computer case that should be your preference but try finding a case with USB 3.0 ports on the front, don't worry if they do not come with USB 2.0 ports, USB 3.0 works with USB 2.0

and dont forget

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM 8.95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007

Arctic Silver ACN-60ML (2-PC-SET) Thermal material Remover & Surface Purifier - OEM 7.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100010
Most heat sinks come with standard thermal compounds and this would help clean the surface of the heat sinks.

Optional If you can squeeze it in or you can go a bit over budget or if prices drop on things, which they will.

CORSAIR H80 (CWCH80) High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler 94.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181016
Not necessary but is useful for keeping the cpu cooler

Is there a time frame when you do plan on building? If you wait till around the time of black friday that would probably be the best time to nail sales and there will be better parts by then which is a ways off by by then the Hard drive manufacturers should be up and running again too.

Rig| Coolermaster HAF X NVIDIA Edition | ASUS Sabertooth 990FX AMD AM3+ TUF Motherboard | AMD Phenom II 1100T Black Edition Six Core Processor -OC 4.23GHz | G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3 1866 8GB | Corsair Neutron GTX Series 2.5" Solid State Drive - 120GB | Western Digital Caviar Black Hard Drive - 1.0 TB x 2 | ASUS Blue Ray & DVD Multi | EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Superclocked Video Card - 2GB | Corsair Hydro H100 CPU Liquid Cooler | Corsair Professional HX1000W

dlf
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I already have a copy of Windows 7 Home Premium (32 & 64 bit) -- bought for $50 a few months before the release. I would rather stay away from overclocking.

hellblazer55
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With this setup you wont have to. Pretty much straight forward with UEFI on ASUS boards, Standard, Green and Turbo modes.

david179057
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if you want a long lasting machine i'd go with the i7 system

no offence to amd fans but the i5 beats or is equal to the fx chip, its probably best not to hop on a "sinking ship"

also the 580 and 560 are last gen cards so the gtx 680 or 7970 would be more "future proof"

david179057
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the ASUS P8P67 DELUXE also has bluetooth built in and over clocks for you based on temps and stability. you can buy a 3.5 card reader for about $10-$15 the cm case has a adapter

dlf
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Unless I get a larger check than what I did a while ago the saved build I have on PCpartpicker will have to do. Also doesn't the 7970 take atlest 300+ watts? I doubt a 650 watt PSU (with the rest of the components) to be enough though this is my first build.

hellblazer55
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Nothing is "future proof" but you can build it to last long, Ive done it with both my AMD and Intel machines, Ill get 5 years out of both easy.

David if your gonna suggest a card with PCIe 3.0 capability, gonna need a board to go with it the P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131790

Allen86
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You should set a budget, otherwise you're going to get ridiculous builds like above :P

You can get a decent I5-2500k, 8gb ram, 1TB HD etc, etc everything you need for about 1,000. For the games you're playing, something like a GTX 560TI or AMD 7850 will more than do the job, for now and years to come. No need to spend 500 on a graphics card unless you're running at extremely high resolutions or gaming across multiple monitors...it's just a waste (not to mention high end graphics cards have huge diminishing returns to their bang for buck)

Q6600 @ 2.4Ghz 4GB DDR2 800Mhz 500GB ATI HD 4850 512mb 22" LCD

hellblazer55
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he did set a budget of 1200 to 1500 and by the time he builds the parts are going to be cheaper than what they are now.

dlf
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And I hope they are cheaper than just a simple 20 - 30 (40?)% . . . 2-3 GB of VRAM should be PLENTY for me -- I am right now at probably 64 MB (I think)*.

*Where in AIDA64 does it show graphics RAM?

hellblazer55
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your current system has 128 MB dedicated memory for your integrated video ram.

Allen86
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Well then, with 1500 I'd likely go for something like this:

Total is right under 1500 but has everything you need, will last a long time and has room from upgrades and further expansion.

i5-2550k - Basically same as the i5-2500k except there's no integrated graphics on the CPU, has potential to OC higher than i5-2500k in theory (+Hyper 212+ Heatsink so you can overclock, will take it to around 4.2-4.5Ghz)
8GB DDR3 1600mhz (2x4gb)
ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 - (P67 is all ya need. You save money by not getting a Z68 and you get more features for the price range compared to Z68...you're not going to be using onboard video, so the z68 is pointless, everything you needed also features 2x PCI-E 3.0)
AMD 7870 2GB GPU (or AMD 7850 for 100 cheaper bringing total to a little less than 1400)
Drive bay card reader, pretty much reads everything.
Blu ray burner/player
1TB WD Caviar Black HD
128GB Crucial m4 sata 3 SSD
Rosewill Thor v2 Full Tower Case - All the room you'll ever need. Plenty of expansion bays, comes with 3x 230mm fans and 1x 140mm fan. The 3x 230mm will give you nice airflow but also be quieter than having a bunch of 120mm fans running. Has front 1x e-Sata, 2x USB 3.0 (hooked up via I/O on motherboard, board is compatible) and 2x USB 2.0

secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=23683167

^ go to link to see all the items

Allen86
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woops double post