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robocop559
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whats up guys. i need help. i want to build my gaming pc, but i am having som problems choosing the right components. i will have amdX2 3.2GHz ,ATI 5970, but i  cannot deside on ram. is it better to have more ram with higher frequency ( lets say 8gb 2000mhz cl-9 ) or less ram with bit lower frequenci but better timing ( 6gb 1600mhz cl-7) or havnig ( 6gb 2000mhz cl-8). i am also not sure about the case . shoud i go with full tower or middle tower ? the last queation is abour power supply, is 850w enough ? thanks for help

robocop559
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correction : i ment ati 5970 :)

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1. It's better to have more RAM of lower frequency than less RAM of higher frequency.

2. Full tower for sure when trying to fit a 5970. You'll be limited if going mid tower.

3. 850W will be very adequate for your setup but if you want to CF another 5970 at a later date, consider a 1000W.

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thanks a lot ., one more question if i am choosing between same ram 8gb, is better 2000mhz cl-9 or 1600mhz cl-7 ?

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What is your monitor setup?

If the answer is not 2+ 30 inches monitors then you are wasting money

700-850W is plenty

If you get the 5970 you should get a full tower-if not a mid is plenty

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robocop559
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i am only going for one monitor right now, maybe in very distant future  i might upgrade . thanks .

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one monitor=get a 5850/70

What resolution is the one?

robocop559
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the resoulution is 1920x1200 . its 22" .

so its better to get s870 for one monitor? i thought that the 5970 is more powerfull ? thanks

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omg feels so nice to be back in this forum! :D

Anyway, to answer your question, the 5970 is more powerful. However, if you're only running one monitor at the resolution of a 22" monitor, the 5870 would be adequate in my opinion. I'm still running an Nvidia GTX 275 and running cod 6 at HD resolution + high settings and it almost has no lag at all.

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 @ 3.2GHz
GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 275
RAM: 4GB PC8500 @ 1066MHz
Motherboard: Asus P5K-E Wi-Fi
HDD: Western Digital 320GB @7200 Rpm

undeadkingpr
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even a 5870 is overkill for 1080p

I have a gts 250 and it can max out Crysis at ~20-30 fps on my monitor of the same res.

If you plan on sticking with the one monitor get a 5850 or even a 5770

If you plan in the future to get another 1080p then get a 5870. It should do 2 screens nicely.

5970 is more powerful than a 5870 but waste of money unless you have monitors to support it.

 

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Agreed. I have a single 22" 1080p monitor and the 5770 is enough to play any current games. The money saved by buying the 5770 can be used to upgrade your CPU.

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Well, if you like playing all the latest games at highest settings, getting the 5970 is a very good idea. You will not waste anything. If you really need to save some for others, then buy either the 5850 or the 5870. I won't recommend the 5770 as you are running it at a very high resolution. You will be able to run all the latest and upcoming games with maxed settings and AA at maxed without lagging if you choose the 5970.

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undeadkingpr
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You will be able to be play all the latest and greatest games maxed out with gtx 260 or 4890 up.

I MAX Crysis at about ~32fps with a gts 250 on a 1080p monitor. there is absolutely no need for $600 5970 to do the same. Crysis 2 is actually supposed to be less demanding so I would not worry about that. Plus most PC games these days are console ports so no need there either.

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And, I forgot to mention that the new 5000 series or the GTX 400 series comes with DirectX 11 technology.

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Dreamer-Boy wrote:

And, I forgot to mention that the new 5000 series or the GTX 400 series comes with DirectX 11 technology.

So get a 5770 or 5830

DX11 does not matter now and will not for 4 months minimum

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the 5770 is kick@$$, kinda cheap and doesnt pull much power.

i have a 5770 and i love it

robocop559
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thank you guys so much for your help. i am not upgrading , but building a new computer and want to get the best performance for my budget , which is around $2500. thanks again

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robocop559 wrote:

thank you guys so much for your help. i am not upgrading , but building a new computer and want to get the best performance for my budget , which is around $2500. thanks again

 

Do you mind creating a new thread and tell us the specs that you're planning? =D

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ofcorse  :)  , well  i am going for :

atlon 2 -X6 3.2 ghz   and   Noctua NH-D14
ati sapphire 5970

8GB DDR3 2000mhz cl-9 ram

WESTERN DIGITAL Caviar Black 640GB 64MB cache
GIGABYTE 790XTA-UD4

NEXUS RX-8500 850W

and for casu ai cannot deside if i shoud go with CoolerMaster HAF 922 or AKASA Infinity or ANTEC Nine Hundred Ultimate Gamer

i woud appriciate if you can tell me what you think about my plan , and if you think that i shoud change some components then i woud be greatfull :). thanks 

 

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Athlon 2 x6? You mean Phenom? x6 is not worth it for a gamer-it has the same l3 cash as an x4 but more spread out which cuts performance. Plus bit-tech published an article saying anything more than an x3 really flatlines.

Ram is nice but overkill.

Maybe get an SSD and cut some ram out. An SSD will greatly improve noticeable speed.

I would look at HAF X for case-it is awesome.

Edit: and a 5970 will give you grief without the multi-monitors. If you have that kinda cash a gtx 480 may be better option.

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I would suggest that maybe you should use a 4-core (quad core) cpu rather than the 6-core ones. Main reason is because that none of the games today in the market takes advantage of the 6 cores, and they won't until at least a year or two. 

Secondly, I disagree with undeadkingpr for suggesting to cut the ram out. My reason is that I am currently playing Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and my ram percentage is around 80%ish on 4GB of ram. However, my main question is, how much do you multitask? If it's just a game running and maybe some music in the background with nothing else opened, then I think that 4GB of ram is sufficient and consider getting an SSD (128GB SSD might be sufficient if you don't have a lot of programs). Note that the SSD is best only to run programs and not for storage, so keep that 640GB hard drive on the list and get a SSD if you have the spare $.

As for a case, I agree that HAF X is awesome for its features but the looks is just not for me. Also, consider at taking a look at SilverStone Raven RV02 case. Both of these cases reviews are available on 3DGameMan's youtube channel. Both of these cases are going to support a full size video card (such as the 5970).

robocop559
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ok, thanks for the answer, then gues that i will go for 6gb ram as the price difference between 4 and 6gb is minimal. to answer you question, i don't really multitask :) , the most of my multitasking is game and sometimes some music in the background.

 the ssd idea is really good, i didnt thought about it before , but i will get one of those for sure .

about the cases i fully agree. HAF X doesnt look that good , even thou its amayzing . i will definitely check out the silverstone case .

h3nr71
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Apparently I heard that Intel makes the best ssd in the market at the moment. I do not own one myself but that's what i heard lol.

undeadkingpr
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ehhhh, not rly

The best SSD in market is one of the new sandforce ones from ocz, corsair, etc.