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DeadlyPaperBag
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( sry my english, I'm from norway ;)

This is the parts I've chosen, and its final is 11 600 NOK, about 1 492 EUR or 2 025 USD I think ;) so, uh... ? I'am kinda new at this, I do have my moments, but still... is this a good gaming pc ? I need a computer thats not too expensive, but can still run hot games (like crysis, Mw2, bf:bc2, red faction: guerilla, just cause 2 ... ) maxed. Not sure about the whole Intel / AMD thing, but for now i stick with Intel.

please let  me know what you guys think :)

 

!!!!! UPDATED RIG INFO !!!!!

 

in advance, thanx for any replies :)

 

Case:

  •   In-Win Fanqua Midi Tower Black, fans: 2x 120mm Front, 1x 120mm Top, 1x 220mm Side, 1x 120mm Back, Blue LEDs

Motherboard:

  •   Gigabyte GA-P55-UD3, P55, Socket-1156 4xDDR3, ATX, GbLAN, 4phase power, PCI-Ex(2.0)x16

Power:

  •   Chieftec Super Series 750W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, 80 Plus, Modular, 2x 6pin+2x 6+2pin PCIe, 8x SATA, 140mm

Memory:

  •   Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333MHz 8GB CL9 Kit w/4x 2GB XMS3 modules, CL9-9-9-24, for Core i5 and i7, 1.5V

Hard drive:

  •   Hitachi Deskstar™ 7K1000.C 1TB 7200RPM, 3,5", 32MB Cache, SATA 3Gb/s

Processor:

  •   Intel Core™ i5 Quad Processor i5-750 Quad Core, 2.66Ghz, Socket 1156, 8MB, 95W, Boxed w/fan

Video Card:

  •   HIS Radeon HD 5850 1GB GDDR5 iCooler V PCI-Express 2.0, 2xDVI, native-HDMI, DisplayPort, HDCP

DVD:

  •   Lite-On DVD+RW burner IHAS124-19 SuperAllWrite, 24x8x16DVD+RW, SATA, Black

OS:

  •   Microsoft Windows Home Premium 7, Full, DVD

 

case mods:

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  •   Zalman 120mm Blue LED Fan 4x Blue LEDs, 4x Anti-Vibration Silicone Pins, RC56 Connector, Silent Mode
  •   Zalman 120mm Blue LED Fan 4x Blue LEDs, 4x Anti-Vibration Silicone Pins, RC56 Connector, Silent Mode
  •   Zalman MFC1 Plus 6 Multi Fan Controller

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or with AMD solution:

  •  AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Quad Core, 3,4Ghz, AM3, 8MB, 125W, Boxed
  •  ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO/U3S6, Socket-AM3 AMD 785G+SB710, SATA 6Gb/s, USB3.0, DDR3, GbLAN, ATX, HDMI, 2xPCI-Ex(2.0)x16
     

In advance, thnx for any replies ;)

Mike_L
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Go for either a Core i3 or Core i5, the E8500 is outdated these days, and you could definately get something better for the money.

Don't have time to make a build list though sorry.

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if you can get the money i believe an i5 CPU with a P55 motherboard would run better, you would also need DDR3 1.65v RAM then, otherwise looks like a great build.

 

Are the Core2Quads good? i mean you could run a C2Q on that motherboard.

DeadlyPaperBag
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I'll take a look at them now ;) thnx.

how about the AMD processors ? with motherboard. are they worth looking into ?

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i did a post on this forum, i think AMD processors well "WORTH" looking into...
not only Intel is generally a douchebag company but their CPUs overrated by fanboys...

anybody can build a "MEGA MONSTER MUTANT SUPER KRAAZEE" gaming system with a lot of funds...
 

the real challenge is to build a good one with limited funds...

thats where AMD comes in. they supply really really good , more than enough CPU s for every need for half the price Intel does ..
why would i buy an intel does slightly better or usually nothing different...

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I sincerely recommend AMD as Swift Kaiser has. For what you are going to pay for a top of the line AMD CPU versus a decent Intel dual-core, you'll save yourself some money and get a world of performance.

If you get yourself a nice AMD Phenom II x4 965 BE and a good motherboard with a 785G chipset, and the 5850 to throw on top of it, you will have yourself the perfect Vision system.

If you haven't heard much about vision, it's certainly something to look into. Vision is AMD/ATi technology and as most people know, AMD bought ATi some time back, so they go hand-in-hand rather well.

The combination of an AMD processor, ATi chipset and video card are just amazing. Intel processors are damn good, don't get me wrong, but what you will pay for a good Intel CPU, you can get better in an AMD processor.

If you want a good Vision suggestion, just let me know and I will start piecing on together for you! I'll link you with the parts, and I guarantee you cheaper than your budget.

Anyhow, what you have now can use some tweaking, but you're getting the idea.

If you want that Vision recommendation, just let me know!

Good luck!

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Well I see intel isn't the only one with fanboii's-

Honestly it depends where you live-

personally I had choice for an i7 920 for $200 or a 965 be for 165-that is not choice at all. In different countires though prices widely vary so if you could list some local prices that would be good.

Also a 5850 is definetly a good choice. Ati recently dropped prices $50 across high-end so some great stuff going on now.

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@DarkAnoma1y ...

I dont know shit about the ''AMD-side'' so, any tips and suggestions are great ! :)
I followed your advice and found:
 

  • AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Quad Core, 3,4Ghz, AM3, 8MB, 125W, Boxed
  • ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO/U3S6, Socket-AM3 AMD 785G+SB710, SATA 6Gb/s, USB3.0, DDR3, GbLAN, ATX, HDMI, 2xPCI-Ex(2.0)x16
  • Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333MHz 8GB CL9 Kit w/4x 2GB XMS3 modules, CL9-9-9-24, for Core i5 and i7, 1.5V

 

To a total off 4 200 NOK( about 541 EUR or 730 USD ) compared to the Intel parts;
To a total off 4 405 NOK( about 568 EUR or 760 USD )

so by choosing the AMD system parts i save;
                       

                          205 NOK( about   26 EUR or    36 USD )

i also read this CPU comparison...
'' In most scenarios Core i5 and Phenom II X4 achieved the same performance level and in most cases when one particular CPU was faster than the other the performance difference was practically negligible.

There were three important exceptions, however. When converting a full-length movie from a DVD (MPEG2) to DivX format Core i5-750 was 16% faster than Phenom II X4 965 and 20% faster than Phenom II X4 955; rendering a sample project on After Effects CS4 Core i5-750 was 22% faster than Phenom II X4 965 and 26% faster than Phenom II 955; and compressing files with WinRAR Core i5-750 was 19% faster than Phenom II X4 965 and 22% faster than Phenom II X4 955.

So for the user working professionally with video editing, Core i5 is the CPU to go and there is no question about it. For the average user picking the “right” CPU will depend on the brand he or she likes best, although the results move the tip of the scale towards Intel. Another item that may help decide the best CPU to choose from is the cost of the motherboard, which was not analyzed in the present review.

One very important discovery made during this review is that if you have a high-end video card, the CPU has almost no influence in the system gaming performance. So if you are building a high-end gaming machine, maybe it is better to pick a cheaper processor and invest the price difference on a faster video card.''

so I don't know :/

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and would a Crossfire configured dual XFX Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 (850 MHz)  solution work better then the HIS Radeon HD 5850 1GB GDDR5 ?

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5770CF will generally beat one 5850 but then again you lose the chance to cf the 5850 in the futre+possibly game some microstuttering issues+in a few games will not add much performance

 

Amd cpu+gpu=NOTHING-ITS PROPOGANDA!!!!!!! There is little to no advantage gained from pairing an ati/amd graphics with an amd processor-they just try to lure you in to make $ so if an i5 which is frequently better on some applications is only $26 more than I would see little reason to go the amd route

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true on the 5770cf it is a good setup, but the amd/ati story is a bit different.

my older rig had  a asus am2 mb and i had a 3870x2-oc2gb that worked but wassent smouth.

after some research i found that the nvidea chipset didnt like my ati card!>.<

so when i put in my older 8600gt it whent smouth like a snake(or something like thatxP)

back then it whas a isseu but now-a-days looking from (lets say) the p45, p55, x46, x58 etc. the story isnt an isseu anymore

but iff your getting a am3 mb with a amd chipset it could(im not saying it would) cause some problems with a nvidea card

in your case(saving money) i would go for a Phenom II X4 with a 5770cf setup but try to get a 790 or 890 chipset

and with your memory i would get 2x4gb 1333mhz instead of a set of 4 modules so you can extand it lateron with another 2x4gb modules

btw with my system i run my games mouthxD

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smooth(=.=)'

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Ya the problems had by differing chipset manufacturers and graphics cards is pretty much gone-anything p55-x58-am3 up should have no problems whatsoever

 

He really would save little to no money going for the amd-it is only $26 cheaper and frequently performs worse

 ya 8gb of ram is a bit of overkill... you probably wont use more than 4 so if you are trying to save money then this is where to do it

 

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I had 6gb at start, but there was this special offer at the site I'm using that offered the 8gb kit for just 1 800 NOK, about 19 EUR or 26 USD more then the 6gb kit. so I was like what the heck :P

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Then get the 8gb kit just once-8gb is plenty