First Build, Hardware Opinions

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Kamael
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SO i'm doing my first build and so far these are the parts I have chosen, let me know wha you think, If I should change any or something has a high fail rate:

 

-EVGA SLI LE Socket 1366 Motherboard

-EVGA GTX 470

(Or should I take a HIS 5850 iCooler V?)

-Intel i7 930

-CoolerMaster HAF 932

-Patriot Memory Extreme Performance 6GB(3x2) DDR3

-Thermaltake Toughpower XT 775W Power Supply

(I wanted a Corsair HX750 but they sold out, is this a good substitute though?

-Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 7200RPM SATA HDD

-Sony Optiarc SATA Optical Drive

 

Anyway I so plan to either add a second GTX470 or 5850 in the future so will the PSU be enough? or should I go with a higher one. I'll probably overclock my CPU to 3.2GHz or so when i get a Corsair H50 as I need to save up for it since I meet my budget wit the parts I mentioned above. Thanks.

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the only one I can really comment on is the video cards,

EVGA actually has two 470 so could you be more pacific?

There is the EVGA 012-P3-1472-AR GeForce GTX 470

and the EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470

the first one cost the most and is the better one but it also has a $20 mail in rebate at newegg that makes it only 10 bucks more then they other one so you might as we...

So I'll just say you are talking about the better one out of the two I listed above.

I would say the HIS iCooler V would be a better choice, unless you know how to overclock and you have the cooling in your case, because the EVGA has some good overclocking features and could out outperform the HIS but with both at stock setting the two are pretty neck and neck but the specs on the HIS is just slightly better.

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Kamael
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Yea I was gonna take the Super Clocked version of the GTX 470. I also saw some benhmarks where the 470 beat he 5850 slightly. As for the case, i kinda have a choosing problem. Should I take the Antec 1200 or the Coolermaster HAF 932?

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I would stick to the 470. It barely beats a 5850 while costing $50 more HOWEVER Nvidia drivers always improve so in the future I see that gap growing. Plus the 470 handles high levels of AA/AF a lot better than the 5850. The clincher is that if you pick up another video card SLI is far smoother than CF. That PSU is fine and should handle SLI just fine.

Either case is great. The 932 has better cooling and is relatively silent so I would go with it.

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Yes the Coolermaster HAF 932 does have better cooling, I'd go with that, the only bad things I can say about it though is the side panel with the fan, I have learned that that kind of window or mesh, what ever you want to call it, loves to collect dust, also the inside of the case is not black but those two cons are not much of a con.

 

Though looking at some videos, I might actually say go with the Antec 1200, why? Because you can actually add two more 120mm fans to the antec 1200, that would make the Antec have better cooling also the inside of the case is black and every fan has a dust filter on the Antec 1200, the Coolermaster actually does not have a filter on its front main intake fan, that and its inside is not black so hm... Price... Their the same at newegg but the Antec has free shipping and the Coolermaster does not... Hm... The bad thing about the Antec having better cooling is, that it has better cooling through the number of fans, the CoolerMaster does it with a few HUGE fans, thus less power cords needed... But there is a flip side to this, when a fan dies, with the 120mm fans, its like $6 to $14 bucks but if you have to replace a 230mm, you'll be spending $20 plus, so...

 

All things considered... I would go with the Antec 1200.

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One thing that has been in my mind about the Antec is that how is the power supply to go? face down or up? I have seen lots of build where the PSU is in some facing up but on others facing down, does it affect it? or should I put it facing up if I decide to go with the Antec?

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KoutaFG wrote:

Yes the Coolermaster HAF 932 does have better cooling, I'd go with that, the only bad things I can say about it though is the side panel with the fan, I have learned that that kind of window or mesh, what ever you want to call it, loves to collect dust, also the inside of the case is not black but those two cons are not much of a con.

 

Though looking at some videos, I might actually say go with the Antec 1200, why? Because you can actually add two more 120mm fans to the antec 1200, that would make the Antec have better cooling also the inside of the case is black and every fan has a dust filter on the Antec 1200, the Coolermaster actually does not have a filter on its front main intake fan, that and its inside is not black so hm... Price... Their the same at newegg but the Antec has free shipping and the Coolermaster does not... Hm... The bad thing about the Antec having better cooling is, that it has better cooling through the number of fans, the CoolerMaster does it with a few HUGE fans, thus less power cords needed... But there is a flip side to this, when a fan dies, with the 120mm fans, its like $6 to $14 bucks but if you have to replace a 230mm, you'll be spending $20 plus, so...

 

All things considered... I would go with the Antec 1200.

You are forgetting some things K.

Have you ever had a computer with 7 120m fans+HDD+80mm graphics fan? I have. It sounds like a hairdryer. It is completely intolerable unless you are always using your headphones. The coolermaster in comparison only has the HDD+GPU but only ONE 120mm fan. The top,front, and side panel are all 230mm. This greatly reduces the noise and improves airflow considerably. One 230mm fan is as good as 2-3 120mm. Plus the side fan on the CM is a 230 meaning your GPU especially gets a huge boost. In addition the CM i FAR more user friendly with a completely toolless desighn, cpu cooler hole and punhed out sie pannels for cable routing. Since both cases are the same price and both of the need $20 in fans I would go for the CM. One big downside are the dust filters-I would order some from a 3rd party.

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I actually do have a case with that many 120mm fans, I don't find them loud or annoying, though I could see it being annoying to others, so really its up to him, if he wants less fan noise then the CoolerMaster but if he wants just slightly better cooling and a black inside with fans that all have filters... then the Antec, you really can use simple math when it comes to the amount of air is being pushed and pulled, just add up the fan sizes on each case and you'll see that the Antec is better if you have the two optional 120mm fans.

 

In the end its up to him, I'll mini argument will be sure to help him pick we both make good points, its up to him to decide on what ones he liked more...

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I'm gonna have to decide tomorrow when  go to Micro Center, sine they showcase the cases then i'll have to decide then. One thing though, what about the PSU mounting in the antec 1200? should it go with fan up or down?

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KoutaFG wrote:

I actually do have a case with that many 120mm fans, I don't find them loud or annoying, though I could see it being annoying to others, so really its up to him, if he wants less fan noise then the CoolerMaster but if he wants just slightly better cooling and a black inside with fans that all have filters... then the Antec, you really can use simple math when it comes to the amount of air is being pushed and pulled, just add up the fan sizes on each case and you'll see that the Antec is better if you have the two optional 120mm fans.

 

In the end its up to him, I'll mini argument will be sure to help him pick we both make good points, its up to him to decide on what ones he liked more...

According to Bit tech testing with the HAF has better cpu and video card cooling than the Antec. This is because you don't "add up" fans. 120mm fan+120mm fan DOES NOT equal ONE 240mm fan. A fan's size is measured DIAGONALLY just like a TV so think of it this way. Two 40 inch TV's do not make one 80 inch. The 80 inch is several times larger then the two 40's combined. Also as you stated whether or not you can tolerate a sound level is subjective but most people would prefer a quiter case for the same price if it was an option.  Plus the CM has the usability points on the whole giving it the advantage. The only major disadvantage for it are the filters but you can buy those elsewhere for like $10-$20.

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I didn't notice this before but the CoolerMaster actually comes in a couple of colors, the one I was looking at was $169.98 before shipping, I didn't notice that the same case with red LEDs in the fans is actually only 139.98 and it has free shipping.

I changed my vote, I vote for the cheaper CoolerMaster case heh.

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I see you have come around to my side! Ya considering i got my 922 for $30 I can't really complain but $140 for a 932 aint bad.

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I'm only saying the coolermaster now is because of the $30 price drop...

The specs between the antec 1200 and the CoolerMaster HAF are very close, you could go either way and be just as happy but the price of the Antec 1200 is $30 more so... When it comes to the price, you'll be slightly happy-rrr when it comes to the CoolerMaster Half with red LED fans, its kind of odd though, that CoolerMaster wants $30 more just to have blue LED fans and not red heh.

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Oh and I'm running a Corsair 800 for about two years now and I'm very happy with it, Corsair is a great brand to go with when it comes to PSU and desktop memory but as for the one your getting 750, overclocking things and two GPUs... I don't know if I'd feel good about it, I have my 800 and I have not overclocked anything and only have one 260 GTX, though I'm no PC pro guy so... Who knows you might be fine with 750. Plus I got my PSU for $90 so... yeah... Go Corsair?