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yodakiller
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I have a lot of questions in one, i live in the uk so things are expensive here im looking to spend about £3500 aprox $5500 is it worth paying for the step up of the i7 950 to 960 for $350 and if not why. Also which is a better mother board the Asus P6X58D Premium or the Asus Rampage III Extreme here is the full config i'm looking to do:

Intel i7 950/960
Cyberpower Advanced WaterCooling Large Kit
Asus P6X58D Premium/Asus Rampage III Extreme
Corsair 6GB G.SKILL NQ Series w/Heat Spreader (is this enough?)
ATI Radeon HD 5970 PCI-E 16X 2GB DDR5 Video Card (or should i go for dual cheaper cards?)
600GB Gaming Western Digital VelociRaptor
Creative Labs X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion
Killer 2100 Gigabit Maximum Network Performance Online Gaming
and would you go logitech or razer?

Thanks guys i would really appreciate your help

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The 960 is not worth it over the 950 since it's not that much faster but is a lot more expensive, and since i7's overclock well anyway you're good with a 950.

For a motherboard, you might want to look at the Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5, which I believe is cheaper and still has great features.

For a hard drive, you would be better off going with a RAID 0 array of normal 7200RPM Caviar Blacks or Samsung Spinpoint F3's. VelociRaptors are overpriced. Of course, since you're doing a prebuilt this might be a little hard if they don't offer anything but VelociRaptors (they're stupid if they don't).

Also, you don't need watercooling. That is for advanced users who do extreme overclocking, and it is a hassle compared to air cooling.

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Water cooling is pretty much standard with most cyberpower pc's

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A single 5970 would be great
6gb of ram is more than enough for most people, so you are probably fine there.

yodakiller
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what do you think the new AMD or the i7? I also looked at the components i think i'll go for the gigabite it seems a really good motherboard for the price, also i looked at raid 0 but i'm a bit sceptical about it is it prone to failure?

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I'm not experienced with RAID, but given the number of people who use RAID 0 and 1 setups and are happy with them I wouldn't think failure would be anything to worry about.

Also, for a gaming computer the i7 and the AMD Phenom II X4's are both good CPUs to choose. The i7 is more expensive and more powerful and has more expensive motherboards, but from what I hear it's worth it due to better SLI support and overall performance. The AMD's will still do great in games, though.

A Phenom II X4 955 and a HD 5970 will have about the same performance in games as an i7 and a HD 5970. There might be a difference of a few frames per second, but nothing noticeable.

yodakiller
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How about the amd phenom ii x6?

CaptainYouPlanet
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The X6 is good too, but it's not really necessary right now to have six processing cores for gaming. It's a good value for a six-core CPU, though, certainly a far better value than the i7 975 or 980x.

yodakiller
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That's great to know I think I'll go with the 950 and the motherboard you suggested, why is the ASUS so much more expensive? And one last thing do you think it is a good idea to get a sound card with it? And the network card? Thanks for all the advice so far you've saved me a lot of money so far

CaptainYouPlanet
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Pretty much every motherboard out today has good enough onboard sound and network for most users. Some people like high-end sound cards since they do have better sound quality, but most people won't appreciate the difference, so go ahead and use the onboard audio and LAN.

As for why the ASUS motherboard is more expensive, I'm not really sure. I just think that for the price and the features you get the X58A-UD5 is a much better deal.

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1. The ASUS is an ROG board with better overclocking potential and other nice features but probably not worth the premium. My ASUS is awesome but I found it open box for less than half price.
2. I would get a sound card because to me it is noticeable. Creative Labs X-Fi anything should be fine.
3. Net. card is rubbish. They do not improve performance or lag at all and sometimes even hurt it. Just save your money.
4. Drop the Velociraptor. It is overpriced and LOUD. Get a 1tb normal and a 120gb SSD like a corsair c300 or OCZ vertex 2. Between the HDD savings and the Net. card savings it should be very doable.
If you want to save a ton of money you could build it yourself. It is very easy and takes very little time to learn how to do. It is almost impossible these days to mess it up since every connector only goes into the hole it is meant for.
I hope you enjoy the new rig!

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yodakiller
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Thanks for that i'll probably not go with the net card and stick to the creative sound card as i like crisp sound, thanks for the input.

yodakiller
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What cases should i go for a Coolermaster HAF-X or Cosmos S or any others?

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It depends on how large of a case you want. If you're going with the HD 5970 or other really long video card (HD 5870, GTX 480) you will need a decent-sized case. If that's what you're going for, I recommend the Cooler Master HAF X and ATCS 840, or the Corsair Obsidian 800D if you don't mind spending a good bit on a great case.

If you're going with a shorter card like the HD 5850 or the GTX 460, I recommend the Antec 1200 or 902, the Antec P183 or the Cooler Master CM690 II.

Just for the record, the basic version of the 690 II is very affordable. I paid $70 for it on Newegg, but I don't know what the price will be over there in the UK. Still, I think it's the best inexpensive case there is, and it fits a GTX 460 with no problems, even in SLI mode.