Building first PC, i5 or i7?

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RatioZ
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Hello all! I'm currently in the works to building my very first PC Build, built specifically for internet surfing, downloading, and just playing games at max settings. My specs are as follows. The only two specs that I currently don't have is the CPU and GPU. The GPU that I'm going for is the 580, while the CPU is something that I'm still going over, should I get the i5 or i7.

PC Case:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146068
Motherboard:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271
Memory:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314
CD Drive:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
Power Supply:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011
Operating System:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
Hard Drive:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136786
CPU Heat Sinks:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136786
GPU:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130587 [/url]
CPU:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Razear
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An i5 should suit you fine, games won't really benefit from going to an i7 unless it's very multi-threaded optimized. Use that money for other upgrades such as investing it into the video card.

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i disagree. I would go with the i7. a few months down the road you will probably think to yourself "why didnt i get the i7" for the extra money, its well worth it.

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Both processors are faster than bat outta hell. The main differences between the Core i7 and the i5 is the cache and hyperthreading. Hyperthreading is great for video rendering and the like, but few if any games benefit from hyperthreading at all.

Allen86
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You won't notice the difference in 90% of the stuff you do between the i5-2500k and the i7-2600k. Even then, if you don't use editing software and the like that take advantage of hyper threading, you literally wont see the difference at all then. The only other difference is the i7 has 2mb more of l3 cache...which is irrelevant really and you will see little no increases from it to warrant the extra 100 bucks spent.

Disregard what he says about "You'll regret not having spent MORE money", because that's just non-sense..you wont notice the difference between the two and you'll have an extra 100 bucks in your pocket.

That said, go with the i5-2500k..get a noctua d14 or phanteks PH-TC14PE and crank it up to 4.5ghz+

You'll be fine. ;)

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Allen86 wrote:Disregard what he says about "You'll regret not having spent MORE money", because that's just non-sense..you wont notice the difference between the two and you'll have an extra 100 bucks in your pocket./quote]

$100 its peanuts. Get the i7. There is more to a PC then gaming. These guys are not looking at the whole picture. I bought an i7 2.5 years ago and my brother bought an i5. My PC is alot faster. Look at the benchmarks yourself.

RatioZ
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Thank you all! I'm just gonna stick with the i5, I can sure use the money for two 580s. ;-)

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You want to save $100 and go with an i5 instead of an i7 and then spend $1000 plus taxes (depending on where you live) on 2 video cards for what? 20FPS? maybe 30FPS? which you wont notice anyways? Not to mention you skipped out on an SSD...

System Build FAIL. Old tech with great video cards.... what a waste

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d3uS2029 wrote: System Build FAIL. Old tech with great video cards.... what a waste

Hey, knock it off. SSDs are still cutting edge, and yes, they can speed a machine up, but they are actually still a lot of maintenance and work that people try to avoid.

As far as i5 vs i7, for a gaming system, an overclocked i5 is going to perform as well as an i7. Hyperthreading creates an additional 4 cores on the 2600k, but games DO NOT NEED 8 cores. Most can't even properly fill 4 cores. And a lot of folks don't recognize the fact that Hyperthreading actually can slow down core to core operation. Yes, two HT cores are 30% faster than a single non-HT core (direct from Intel), but HT cores individually aren't as fast as that single non-HT core, as Hyperthreading actually places load in and of itself.

If you are running heavy multi-core processing like graphics animation or video rendering, yes, i7 or FX-8xxx series will serve you well. For games, it makes sense to scale back to a simpler 4-core and push the money towards other aspects of the system.

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I dont know about you but SSD's do not require alot of maintenance anymore if any at all in the passed. My vertex 2 and Agility 1 have the same performance as their last firmware updates. Like you said it would be a good idea to push the money toward something else... like upgrading that $43 RAM on $1000 worth of video cards.

Everyone is going to disagree of course because yes this build WILL work but not anywhere close to its full potential. I would NEVER build a system like this for anyone let alone myself...

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That's what I'm talking about... what can be properly stored on an SSD (no virtual memory or other heavy rewritten data), stability of volumes, firmwares, etc. Magnetic is far easier for people who aren't "pros" in dealing with heavy system issues, and SSDs need a good eye, especially on the initial installation.

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And there you have it. So in summery, someone who is willing to build their own PC should do their homework before attempting to do so weather its a hard drive or a motherboard. Chances are when you buy yourself a mobo the bios need to be updated. SSD's are easier to update then mobo BIOS

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This is titled "building first PC." Sometimes, you need to learn in phases.

d3uS2029, please take a note, and learn to be polite, at least on this forum. If he chooses to build without an SSD, this is a personal choice. I build PCs without SSDs on almost a daily basis!

Nick McDermott