Best Specs: New Build

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chunky975
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I'm possibly looking at a new computer and I was looking around but I'm not sure what the best specs are. I found a couple i like the look of. Now I know these are the best ever specs around but I'm on a budget so i can't afford to spend more than a few hundred. All I want is something that can handle games with good graphics. Anyway:

PC 1

  • AMD Phenom X6 Six Core AM3 2.8GHz x6
  • 8GB DDR3 RAM
  • 1TB HDD
  • ATI HD5450 1GB Graphics
  • ASRock N68C-S

PC 2

  • Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz
  • 4GB DDR3 RAM
  • 1TB Hard Drive
  • ASRock N68C-S
  • No Graphics card (onboard I believe)

So what one would be better for gaming or something as these specs stand?
What I'm really interested in is Intel vs AMD, RAM and the graphics card. Anything else isn't really a big deal.
Price range is about £300 - £400 and these machines both cost ~£350.

d3uS2029
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You might want to save a little more cash. Those video cards will not be able to handle games at full potential

:.: Intel i7 920 @ 3.8Ghz :.: 12GB Corsair XMS3 @ 1704Mhz :.: ASUS P6T V2 Deluxe :.: ASUS 5870EAH :.: 120GB Vertex 2 (OS) :.: 120GB OCZ Agility (Games) :.: 2x WD Black 2TB (Data) :.: Zalman 850w PSU :.: Lite-On Blu-Ray Burner :.: HP w2207h LCD :.:

chrisrice93
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You definitely don't want a 5450, just because it has 1GB of ram doesnt mean its good for gaming, it just means it can run at higher resolutions. I had a 5450 before and I could run new games on lowest settings getting 40-50 fps. Onboard graphics are the same, its for watching bluray and stuff for htpcs not for gaming. You should save up a little more cash and get a amd 6000 series or nvidia 400 series.

McnP88
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Upgrade the processor to a Phenom x2 1090T (don't bother with the 1100T, the performance gain is marginal for the cost) and you can get a motherboard with it at superbiiz for about $255. Research around though, there might be better prices depending on who's having rebates.

The Asus M4A89GTD PRO that comes with it there seems like a very solid board, with exceptional overclockability in that price range (Crosshair IV and ROG boards are out of the question for price).

Next, 8gb is probably not necessary for a gaming setup unless you plan on running photoshop while playing a memory intensive game. Personally I would step down to 4 GB (2x2GB) of ram, but don't go looking for mhz for performance in an AMD build, look for C7 timings or C8 timings, as this will improve the system's speed a lot further than jumping from 1333mhz to 2000mhz on a C9 timing. Why? The Memory Controller on AMD chips prefer having 1 stick of ram in each channel, so you could go for 2x4gb sticks, but the denser the memory, the higher the timings will be (traditionally). If you can find G.Skill Flare, they are probably the best for a 1090T and that mobo, as the mobo has an autoclock function for THAT ram specifically in the bios to get it to C7 T1 2000mhz... but performance is marginal over 1333 mhz.

Get a better GFx card, a HD 6850 has some great bang for the buck, and to upgrade your computer 30% or more (in games) would only set you back the cost of another HD 6850 (futureproofing your PC for idk, 3-4 years with acceptable performance?).

A 1TB HD sounds great and all, but it will not increase your performance. Find yourself a nice SSD to install Windows and the games you currently play on, it will make the overall experience much more enjoyable. If your PC is less than 4 years old, you should have a 250-500GB HD that you could format and use for storage. Also, make sure your pagefiles are set on the SSD only.

I won't comment on the Intel build, as any gaming rig should have a graphics card capable of handling Medium to High/Ultra settings in current games.

Est. cost of parts mentioned:
$575
Assuming a SSD with ~60GB
Assuming CL8 2x2GB
Assuming HD6850
Assuming Sale/rebate on CPU/Mobo

massau
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i would say (like always) for the 28nm gpu's and go for intel or wait till amds 32 nm because it will lower power consumption and it will lower the cooling noise and cost / year for the electricity. a much better oc will be possible so you can do it to keep your pc fast enough for a short time.

chunky975
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Thanks. I came up with this build before you commented there:

Costs the same as the other two roughly but I downgraded a couple of things to upgrade others so it's a more balanced case.
I tried to incorporate an SSD in another build I made and i couldn't afford the extra ~£100 considering all it does is save a bit of time and is more of a luxury. Maybe an addition later when I upgrade?

chunky975
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That was addressed to McnP88. As much as i didn't want to double post, I can't edit it because it got triggered by the spam filter or something. fail site is fail.

McnP88
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I would say that the PSU in your latest build post might be insufficient if you plan on overclocking anything. I'm not all too familiar with the HD 6600 series or your specific CPU cooler, but is there an option within your budget for a bit more robust psu? I think earthwatts has a reliable and inexpensive 500 or 550W PSU, probably the same or cheaper than the corsair you listed and might be more efficient. Just a thought. Other than that, the build looks alright for a budget gaming pc, but massau is right, it might be better to wait for new architectures to come out. Next month (supposedly) AM3+ Motherboards will come out, and you should really get a mobo with a uefi (sp?) instead of a bios, as a uefi is more efficient and bios systems are reaching some potentially disappointing caps (like HD size).