Are these parts compatable?

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austin3118
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first off, im not trying to make a gaming computer just yet, thats why i dont have the cpu cooler, or a video card, but i plan to possible turn it into a gaming computer later on, but here's the setup:

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UB case

ASRock 880GXH/USB3 motherboard

COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS-500-PCAR-A3-US 500W ATX12V v2.3 Power Supply

AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz cpu

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB memory

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ HDD

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS dvd burner

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

please tell me asap, finally can afford a good computer, if you know any better deal, please let me know, this is my first build so any help is useful thanks

CorsonMcNash
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If you were to turn this computer into a gaming rig, would you think about crossfire or sli? If so, I would suggest a motherboard with two pci-e slots and a higher watt power supply. Also you may want to think about a higher watt power supply just in general, so it can handle the high end graphics cards available now, and in the future. make sure it has some 6 pin/8 pin graphics card power adapters. Also I would think about getting a western digital caviar black HDD. I have two of them and they're great. My friend's company also only uses them for their servers. very reliable and fast. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136320)

Good luck with the build,
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For casual gamers, you'll want to get a HIS H685F1GD Radeon HD 6850 video card. This is good for starters.

If you want to go extreme, but with a single card setup, you can go with HIS H697F2G2M Radeon HD 6970 video card, but note that I don't think the video card will fit in with Centurion 5, as the 6970 takes up about 11" and the 6850 takes up about 9", so since I don't know what is the max length you can fit the video card into Centurion 5, other owners of the case might give you a recommendation for what video card to buy that will fit into the computer case. Centurion 5 seems to be made back during 2006 or 2005, but I can't be sure.

I hope I can be of help.

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Measured my Cent 5 and it was about 11 inches max from the start of the cards PCB to the hdd cage. So I guess an 10 ~ 10 1/2 card would fit fine. If it was me I'd use a dremel and saw that cage to make it fit. Could remove the rivets to pull the hdd cage out and then install the Hdd into the 5 1/2 bay area with a Mounting Bracket, adapter or converter.

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austin3118
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k so all these parts would work together well? or should i just get a pre assembled comp from compusa and put my old HDD w/ windows xp on it and buy the gskill ripsaw ram? just dont want to get something too much for what i need, which is very lights gaming, (gta 4, gta: sa, tf2) and everyday activities w/ a little bit of 720p video editing or so, would really help if you could show me a decent pre assembled comp at tiger direct / compusa, dont want to pay for shipping @ newegg, just found out there's a compusa less then 5 miles from my house (p.s., i have a buget of $500-$600 for the full computer (os, all parts, and a monitor and possible keyboard/mouse)) thanks

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COMPUSA in your area!? I thought COMPUSA in Tallahassee, FL is closed! :/ I'm surprised COMPUSA is still opened in your town/city.

Well anyway, speaking of Team Fortress 2, even a Radeon HD 5450 is fine but I'm not sure if it's in the level of ATI Radeon X800 or GeForce 6800, as these are old video cards. For GTA 4, you'll want a minimum of AMD Radeon 5670 or maybe a GeForce 440, but I'm not sure if that's equivalent to AMD Radeon 5670. For GTA: SA, a low-end video card, such as an AMD Radeon 5450 will probably work fine. I don't think the two games, Team Fortress 2 and GTA: San Andreas, are that demanding compared to GTA 4, so if you're going to be playing old games but still want to play at high resolution, you'll probably want to go with AMD RAdeon 6850.

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austin3118
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k sweet, but do you know of any compusa preassembled computer that i could get? idk if i should get a intel or amd, amd is cheaper, but i hear a lot of good things about intel, and is there a huge difference between ddr2 and ddr3? seems i would be better of just to make a custom one, w/o barebones, but compusa is very limited on their brands :l idk ideas plz?

austin3118
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whats a good cpu for me? i was looking at some dual cores but idk, would a quad be overkill for what im using it for? im pretty much set on 4gb of ddr3 1600 ram, found a good deal @ compusa, but the rest im not 2 sure, like i said before should i put my old HDD into the computer ( its 70gb ) and it has windows xp, microsoft word, and a bunch of good stuff, save me $150 bucks on another HDD and OS for a little while :L help plz i need my computer plans by this weekend <3

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An AMD Athlon II X2 250 will probably be fine for you.

If you get ASUS M4A88TD-V motherboard, you can let your motherboard overclock it for you. I bought the open box version for $85 and it is cheap, but I am getting this because I'm upgrading my server and I have ordered an AMD Athlon II X2 240e (45w TDP) for about $65 from Amazon and I am getting a pair of 4GB of DDR3 memory. So, it's better if you buy the retail version for $120. It's quite in an expensive side, but it gives you good quality components and it's got a surge protection to protect your components from a switched power supply. So anyway, 4GB of RAM is fine for your needs.

As for OS and hard drive, sure you can add in your hard drive, but I think you may need to reinstall Windows XP, although I can't be of help with old versions of Windows. I'll let others help you out with that.

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Your old XP installation will bluescreen if you use it on the new motherboard, there are workarounds for that but if you can, a reinstall of the OS is always preferred. - just reinstalling without formatting wouldn't touch your Office programs as far as I know. But anyway I would worry about another HDD later on, first get the mobo/cpu/ram upgrade.

In most cases it's cheaper to build it yourself, but prebuild can be cheap as well as long as it has the hardware you are looking for (compared to buying those parts individually). In my opinion the Regor CPUs aren't that great, might as well get a Propus (quadcore Althlon II) for just a few extra $, or look into the more powerful Phenom II types; Callisto (dualcore, about the same price as a Propus) or Deneb (quadcore). The sweet spot here seems to be the Propus; quadcore at a dualcore price :p.
X4 Propus may be overkill for GTA:SA and light pc use, but the extra cores may come in handy when rendering videos. And for GTA:4 you would rather look at the more expensive Denebs.. But again, it's a sweet spot, or compromise, whatever you want to call it when you're on a small budget.

But as always, you may want to wait just a few months and see what the new line of AMD CPUs brings us.. although "the waiting game" is never a good advice when you just need an upgrade right now.

Huge difference between DDR2/3? Hard to tell.. of course it's faster but it's debatable if a light user would notice it. But nowadays DDR3 is the more obvious choice; it's the new standard so prices are affordable and there's more availability and competition in price for motherboards and CPUs that use it.

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You can upgrade to a quad core CPU or an expensive dual core CPU, even at a same price, but you may only squeeze out a few extra frames per second for gaming.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=521&Itemid=99999999&limit=1&limitstart=9

I really don't know why they used HD 4200 to compare against GTX 285. Not a very good comparison, though, but the point is, today's games uses GPU for graphics, but maybe in the future, I might think that games could take advantage of multiple cores from the CPU.

Does anyone know of better sources for benchmarks when comparing CPUs and GPUs? What I mean is, 5 CPUs from AMD, 5 CPUs from Intel, and 2 video cards: one from AMD and one from nVidia.

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2 pairs of Insignia NS-B2111s (front/rear), Pioneer SP-C21 Center Speaker, and 12" Velodyne Sub

Just ordered HP Pavilion dv7-6165us from QVC. Will have it by next Friday.

austin3118
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i think im just going to stick with the comp i got set up, dont really want to overclock, dont game much except on xbox 360 where most of my friends irl play, anyone know how many fans i can put onto this baby? http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6089169 , found this case, http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5310941 , then put another 4-5 of these fans into the case to keep everything cool, http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5472212&CatId=802, not a bad deal for buy 1 get 1, also, should i get windows 7 64 or 32bit? tell me what you think, i know i dont need a ton of fans but i would rather get some while they are cheap.