Advice on a Harddrive?

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Beasty92
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Hello, Iv just been checking my temps and my hard drive is running at 60 degrees Celsius, is that normal, or too hot?

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hdd cooling is what people buy when they have spare cash lying around. I wouldn't worry about the temps. I like most don't check hdd temps because if the hdd dies send back to manufacture if it still has a warranty on it, or if its a cheap one throw it away buy another. Keep all ur data on a external so "when" ur hdd dies its no big deal.

as long as u keep ur case dust free there is nothing to worry about.

60C is the maximum safe operating temperature for a hard drive

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Beasty92
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ah, thanks for the advice :), my case at the moment is absolutely terrible... no intake fans what so ever, so i have to have it open pretty much all the time. that probably explains the high temps for it lol.

hnkftalnot
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Noir, that is some really bad advice.. "don't care about component's lifespan, just buy new stuff".

Beasty, I think 60 celcius is too high for constant use. As you have already noticed you should make sure there is airflow over the drive, that's all it really needs. It doesn't need to be much: they actually perform best when they are a bit warm like 30 to 40 celcius and as a result, active cooling solutions for harddrives are not advised and also rare.

Check the ventilation holes for dust and make sure the drives are in the line of the case's airflow and not in a dead spot. Also close the case, an opened case kills all airflow.

Beasty92
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Iv checked all the ventilation holes and they seem clear, i would keep my case closed but since there is no intake it just gets even hotter inside. although i will be getting probably one of the best cases for cooling at christmas so it should be ok for a few more days :) (btw the case im getting is a CM 690 II)

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Some cases are poorly ventilated but there should always be some place where you can install additional fans. Sounds like your case could use an intake fan at the front (where the harddrive usually is located).

You'll probably don't have to worry about it with your new case though:)

Beasty92
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nahh im not going to worry with the new case, the airflow in that is amazing, my brother has one thats why iv decided to get one also :)

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Try and keep it below 55C.

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hnkftalnot wrote:Noir, that is some really bad advice.. "don't care about component's lifespan, just buy new stuff".

Its not bad advice considering hdd are so cheap now days and he is using a hdd not a ssd. If i said this for a ssd its bad advice.

1= HDD eventual die its fact when it does who knows?
2= Cost of hdd is cheap(breaks buy a new or send it back to manufacture)
3= always back up ur data
4= don't make hdd a big deal to keep temp monitor on because it use a case as its heat sink. highly doubtful a case maker would purposely design a case that would cook hdd or they would be out business.

ex: external enclosures some "vantec nexstar 3" have no vents on them at all no one bothers to check temps on that. Poorly cooled not really, it uses the enclosure as heat sink. Yet you don't see people worrying about the temps of the hdd inside.

ex2: lets look at the ps3 it say not to put a 7200rpm drive in there because the heat will damage the ps3 internal parts not the hdd.

If u are monitoring the temps the place that has to be monitored is the pcb on the hdd its self.

whats my point?
-backup ur important data
-monitor temp on ur hdd only if its a raptor, voloci raptor, or ssd because those tend to cost u a arm and leg.
-Don't be over paranoid over a hdd temp

Look at laptops ever felt how hot the bottom of it is? well that is ur hdd and cpu making the heat yet people don't run around looking for cooling solutions. Only people that want buy a fan base to put laptops on and cool them.

I bet if ask 100 people what temps to they monitor, most would say cpu, video card, and ram. And if u then asked don't u monitor the HDD reply would be "no". And then u would ask Y? There answer would be that it so cheap who would care + all my data is backed up. It only costs 20-80 bucks to replace the same a going to gamestop and buying video game

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That whole thing about "u must have at least 3 fans in ur case" is not true for every case. Lets look at my case a Qmicra v2F i only got one 120mm fan in it. Now is that poorly cooled? Lets do some maths 1 60cfm 120mm fan, video cards that vent air out of the case at about 30cfm x 2 since i run CF. so it comes out to 120cfm keep in mind the volume of the case is 1 cubic foot so it cycles the air completely in less than a sec. even if it only was only 60cfm thats still cycles the case air every sec.

so as far as minimum amount of fans for case its up to u personally. And yes i can load the case up with a total of 5 fans, but even the manufacture stats that one 120mm fan is more than enough.

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Just make sure your pc is running at room temperature.
Add a couple of exaust fans and you should be fine.
You can find them at any computer store for little price.
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if you dont have any case fans, go to a drug store or target or something and buy a cheap little floor fan and keep your side panel open. Its a pretty ghetto solution but its better then nothing.

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CFM is cubic feet per minute. It's the measurement of air flow. Let's say you have a fan that intakes 30 CFM and you have a fan that exhausts 60 CFM. The exaust fan pushes out more airflow to the back or top of the case while the 30 CFM intake fan pushes airflow inside the case. Not only is the airflow dependent in the direction of the fan, it's also dependent in where you place your fan. So a side fan pulls in the amount of air from the outside the case to the video card and a fan inside the front of the case pulls in cool air from the front of the case to the hard drive(s).

So, I think I can conclude this: even if you have 4 120mm fans pushing in 30CFM from outside to the inside of the case, you'll still pulling in 30 CFM, which can be compared to a one big 240mm fan that still pushes in 30 CFM.

Or am I wrong? Can someone please backup noir2525's claim that 30 CFM + 30 CFM + 60 CFM = 120 CFM?

I did everything I can to explain, but I'm going to have to look for sources to cite.

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Those CFM numbers are in optimal conditions, and that's usually not tucked inside a case with different heat levels and turbulence. It's also dependent on the airpressure. It's not that if you have 30CFM input and 60CFM output that you'll be creating a vacuum or something... The input will just increase a bit or the output will not push the full capacity.

Also, taking turbulence into consideration, I'm pretty sure that three 30 CFM fans next to eachother will never reach 90CFM, they would probably mess up each others airflow and only push 30CFM combined.