Advice on building a computer

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Ok so i'm gonna have a go at building my first gaming computer (yay). At the moment everythings a bit overwhelming and i'm no expert in computers so i don't know which parts will go where.I also think i will go windows 7.

Ive got a budget of around £1000 but if i use less i will be happy.I don't want anthing extreme but i would like it to run game like WoW at max graphics.

At the moment there are 2 parts that i think i want.These are :

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Quad-Core Processor
Palit SONIC PLATINUM nVIDIA GTX 460 Geforce 1GB Graphics Card

I'm not sure what else to go for as i don't really know much. The graphics card looks perfect for me and the processor i heard was good.I was considering an Antec 900 or something or even the 300 for the case but i don't know the difference really and if they will work with the other parts etc.

Could someone please give me a complete list of parts that will work together.It would be really appreciated if you could link them to a UK website.

Its my first built computer so i want to be sure what i'm buying will work and is approved by people who know what they are talking about.

Thanks!

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i don't live in the Uk so i dont know the exact prices but from the prices where i live i made you this list:

ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, Socket-AM3
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition
Palit SONIC PLATINUM nVIDIA GTX 460 Geforce 1GB Graphics Card
Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333MHz 2x4GB CL9 (8 GB total)
Corsair HX 650W PSU
Cooler Master Gladiator 600 Midi Tower
Seagate or WD 500GB HDD
Sony Optiarc DVD±RW burner AD-7260S
HP 22" LE2201w,WIDE LCD, 5ms,1680x1050

it should get you at a little under 1000£ i think.
there is no need for a 4 core cpu when you can get a 6 core amd for under 200£. you could go with the 1055T cpu instead of that one and save 30-40£.
you can have any dvd burner or monitor you'd like, you should be able to get a 22" for around 130-140£ i suppose. There is a Benq 24" monitor at around 150 euros, so maybe even that one.
Same for the case. get one that has the specs you want but also has a design that you like.

depeding on your budget you could even get 16 Gb of ram, but that would get you around 1100-1150£ i think.

hope it helps.

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not sure i like the look of the case but i'm really not sure what other cases i want besides the one i listed above or even if they will work with the motherboard etc. Yeah although 16 gb sound a lot better i was aiming for only 8 gb to save money and to not go overload on my first comp.
How much difference will a 6 core processor make? It sounds a lot better for £70 extra. But just incase i feel like playing it cheap the quad core will still work with all theother parts right?

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yes, the quad-core will work.

the difference won't be big, might not even be noticeable if you're gaming mostly.
more cores help with rendering or encoding, games don't really take advantage of all the cores these days.

the motherboard will fit in any of those 3 cases, so no worries there. the antec 300 and the one i posted are about the same price so go with any of them.
where i live the antec 900 costs about twice as much as one of those two and if you want the 900 you will have to go with the quad-core so that you do not break your budget.

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The problem is that besides price i don't know the real difference between the 900 and the 300 , i heard the 900 has better ventillation which might be good with the graphics card. Although i'm worried about it being noisy and the extra ventillation not being worth it. Also i'm not a fan of the LEd's on the fans although i think you can remove them. I'm actually getting a 24" monitor for christmas so i'm sorted with the monitors.

Thanks btw you've been a lot of help so far.

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If you don't do any overclocking you shouldn't have trouble with heat, and since you'll be hanving a single graphics card i think you'll be fine even with the standard cooling of the 300 or gladiator.
If you wish you could anyway add a couple of extra fans to any of those 2 cases.

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i might go for the antec 902 , i think it might be too much but it looks like a good case if i ever wanted to expand. Do you have any experience with this case?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Antec-Hundred-Ultimate-Complete-Customisation/dp/B001PKUU4A/ref=cm_cr_pr_sims_t

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The AMD six cores are quite cheap, but if it's £70 extra I don't think it's worth it. A sixcore only really helps for rendering and encoding, but if you don't intend to do that all day then there's not really a need and a quadcore would handle everything just fine, also for gaming.

I should mention that you picked the second most expensive motherboard. It is a very good board if you want a heavy crossfire and overclock it to the max, but otherwise you really don't need it. You don't even need the 890FX chipset if you're not doing crossfire, the cheaper 890GX or 880G will be just as good for your setup. Look at this list, there are some good alternatives even under £80. Just decide if you want USB3.0 since manufacturers may add that themselves.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=5&subid=1782

About the RAM, I know that more always sounds better but 16GB is ludicrous if your not into heavy image- and videoediting, and even then it can be too much. 8 GB is already overdoing it. Most people don't need more than 4GB and that includes gamers, some want a bit more headroom and go with 6GB, but only people who have no idea what they are buying go with 8 or more. (Or they really need it, but then you would know.)

Since RAM isn't very cheap it would be such a waste when half of it is never used. Rather put that money somewhere where you will notice it, like a second HDD and make a RAID, or even get an SSD.

As for the case, any ATX case will do. You just need to focus on the amount of harddrives/optical drives you want to install, and what you think looks nice :). A bigger case can give better airflow but for 1 GPU, stock cooling, not overclocking.. no need for special tricks I'd say.

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i suppose i will go 4gb's then , i can always add more later right?
Motherboard wise i don't know anything about them , i don't know what most of the numbers mean etc , i jst want what people will reccommend.Not sure now though , i don't want anything over the top though cause i'm only gonna be playing WoW and SC2 and maybe some FPS's so i don't need anything too powerful.

The problem is that cause the motherboards like the main part i don't want to go too cheap on it if you get what i mean.
It seems to be the motherboard and case i have issues with now.

BTW by going quad core and only 4 gb thats about £120 saved which is quite good

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@Gov

what hnkftalnot said about the motherboard is true, it is on the expensive side, but i reccomended it so that in the future if you wish to upgrade your pc you will be able to change or add a lot of stuff without having to change the motherboard.

if you go with the quad-core and 4gb then you can afford the antec 900 two without any problems, and it's a very good case, or any other that you might like in the same price range.

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do i need a sound card? I think i probably should can anyone reccommend one? Also i think i will buy a usb card thing to give the extra sockets on the back. However will both these and the graphics card fit on that motherboard?

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Depends on what kind of audio setup you have. If you got like 2+1 speakers or just 2 stereo speakers, then i would say you don't need a stand alone sound card.

But if you want one the Asus Xonar D2X seems to be very good and from the reiews it works great with windows 7 64bit. you could also get the Asus Xonar DX to save a bit of money.
Just make sure you get either the sound card or the usb card as PCI-express versions, and then you won't have any problems fitting them on your motherboard.

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I meant to ask this question earlier . what is the difference between the 64 bit and 32 bit windows 7?
Speaker wise ive got a logitech x-230 , not sure about the sound card although idon't know how expensive most cards are.I just want one so i can have some sockets for the speakers at the back of the computer.

Thanks so much you've both been a lot of help

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64bit os allows you to use over 3 gigs of ram, if you use a 32bit os you are limited to using 3 gigs, where as 64bit has some crazy top limit. and dont bother with a sound card, unless your hooked up to a 1000 home theater system you would never know the difference, and even then its not worth the hassle of just using onboard

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K don't worry about the sound card question , after having a look at unboxing videos i realised there are ports that come with the motherboard. I didn't realise this cause i honestly didn't know motherboards came with them.

Anyway i guess it will fit together right? The antec , motherboard and power supply suggested.

Can anyone link or suggest a good hard drive?

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this one http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-206-SE&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=940

i have one in my pc and it is very silent, i can barely hear it.

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Ok so at the moment i'm looking at getting

- AMD Phenom II 955 quad-core
- Palit SONIC PLATINUM nVIDIA GTX 460 Geforce 1GB Graphics Card
- ASUS Crosshair IV Formula - AMD 890FX - SupremeFX X-Fi Audio - CrossFire - ATX
- Sony Optiarc AD-7243S - Disk drive - DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM - 24x24x12x - Serial ATA - internal - 5.25"
- Corsair CMPSU-650HXUK 650W Power Supply
- CORSAIR 4GB 1333MHz CL9 DDR3 Memory Kit
- Seagate OEM 500GB Barracuda 3.5 inch 7200.12 Internal Hard Disk Drive
- Antec 300 or 902 (can some give a reccommendation on this i know i keep asking)

Without the OS and anti virus i plan on buying for it , the comp comes to £750 (with a antec 902)which i think is pretty good.

Will EVERYTHING listed work and is it ALL that i need. (sorry for caps i just want to make it pretty clear cause i don't want my first built comp to not work because i didn't order something)

Thank you so much , sorry for the repetetive question i just wanted to be 100% sure on everything

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get the 902 case.
it's much better than then 300 and don't worry, the parts will work together.

i'm not sure if you already have a mouse and keyboard or not, but otherwise you seem to have everything you need.

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Rodney has a video review of the 902 case. You should take a look at it. I have the 900 case myself and like it very much, but I really like the black interior of the 902. It's just a nice touch. I recently built a system with the 300 case and can say that it's an extremely nice case. It's not as tall as the 900 or 902, but it's very easy to work inside and all the connections were easily identifiable. Agree with Fodir, get the 902.

As far as you component list above, it looks really good. You won't be disappointed.

For purchases in the UK, try ebuyer http://www.ebuyer.com/

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K thanks all i will try and order the parts later during the week and i might post later in the week and tell you if it all went well.
Yes i have everything but i comp ive got a good mouse , keyboard , speakers and monitor its just the comp that needs the update.

I hope these links work , this what i have in the basket ready to order.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/cart/view.html/ref=gno_cart
I don't think the link to ebuyer was working so heres the list asit appears
1 x Antec 902 Nine Hundred Two Black ATX Case - No PSU 155939 £72.30 £72.30
1 x AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 3.4GHz Socket AM3 8MB L3 Cache 125W Retail Box Processor 186428 £103.99 £103.99
1 x PALIT GTX 460 SONIC Platinum 1024MB GDDR5 DUAL-DVI HDMI VGA Out PCI-E Graphics Card 232640 £138.42 £138.42
1 x ASUS Crosshair III Formula Republic of Gamers Series AMD 790FX Socket AM3 XFI Audio Card ATX Motherboard 186593 £125.54 £125.54
1 x Corsair 650W HX Modular PSU 173104 £80.65 £80.65

For some reason i think some items that were avilible from amozon i couldn't find on ebuyer although what produects i did find were slightly cheaper.

Please just go over the shopping basket and give me the thumbs up if it all looks good

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the link doesn't work for me, it doesn't show me the shopping cart, it might only work for your username.
in the list you posted though you forgot the RAM memory other than i can see you went for a cheaper motheboard but it will still be very good for your needs.

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the ram was in the amazon link heres what was in it

Kaspersky Internet Security 2011, 3 PC, 1 Year Subscription (PC)
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium, Full Version (PC DVD), 1 User
Sony Optiarc AD-7243S - Disk drive - DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM - 24x24x12x - Serial ATA - internal - 5.25" - black - Labelflash
CORSAIR 4GB 1333MHz CL9 DDR3 Memory Kit
Seagate OEM 500GB Barracuda 3.5 inch 7200.12 Internal Hard Disk Drive (7200RPM, SATA, 16MB Cache)

This and the stuff in the post is everything that i'm ordering

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Kapersky is overrated. You can get proper security from free products:

MS Security Essentials
Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
Spybot Search&Destroy

I'm not sure what prices are in the UK, but I'm pretty sure you can find a Samsung or a Lite-On optical drive for cheaper than the Sony. It's not going to be a huge amount of money (I'd say 10 pounds or less), just my input.

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i know kaspersky is pretty overrated but i just want something that i know ive paid for and is good , currently i do use malware bytes though. I know it won't make too much difference but i just want something that i know is a bit reliable or something along those lines. It probably isn't the best but heck i know it works.

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i don't think i can double post but i just want get a solid answer
The stuff that is now listed will worl yeah?

BTW thanks everyone for all the help it means a lot :)

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yes, all the parts are compatible with eachother and you got everything you need to build a complete PC.

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Yes it will all work together, but I don't get why you changed the board to the Formula III 790FX. It's from the previous chipset generation (7xx) and doesn't have the upcoming SATA 6 Gb/s and USB 3.0 standards.

If you don't care about those then that's fine, but I still think a high-end crossfire board doesn't fit a midrange build with an Nvidia graphics card (they can't crossfire anyway). You pay a premium for high performance crossfire abilities you're not going to use, yet you don't get the new stuff in case you're going to get fast SSD/HDD or USB3 devices later on. In short, you pay more for less. (For an overview on the differences between AMD chipsets see here).

Again, it will all work together like this, but I think one of these boards would suit the build better:
one of these 880G boards for £80:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-403-AS
or with more expansion slots (I'm not sure how many you need):
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-280-GI
or 890GX with crossfire, more expansion slots and better cooling for £92:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-890GX-Extreme3-Motherboard-SuperSpeed/dp/B003EGEE04/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1292098606&sr=8-1-catcorr
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-251-GI
My personal flavor would be ASRock, feature rich for a good price.