CoD Black Ops and My PC Lag..

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What could be done to get rid of the ingame lag.. ?
like I dont have high ping or anything but still..
here is my set...

Processor:
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
Memory:
4094MB RAM
Hard Drive:
2x500 GB 2x640 GB 1x 1.5TB
Video Card:
ATI Radeon HD 4870 1GBvRam
Monitor:
SAMSUNG 22" LCD
Sound Card:
Speakers (High Definition Audio Device)
Speakers/Headphones:
have both... :D
Keyboard:
G11 Logitech
Mouse:
Razer Copperhead Blue
Mouse Surface:
Operating System:
Windows 7™ Ultimate 64bit
Motherboard:
Asus P5Q Pro
Computer Case:
Antec 1200

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Maybe try turning down the eyecandy to medium, Turn OFF game shadows. Try other drivers. There are probably a large number of COD tweaks you can find online. Try raising your Quads to 3GHz. You can check your FPS by typing "cg_drawfps 1" in console. It might be time to upgrade your video card..

You can also try this stuff...

going into steam/common/call of duty black ops/players and edit the config.cfg and config_mp.cfg. Look for the following strings:

seta r_multiGpu
seta r_multithreaded_device

Change it back to 0 if you only have one card..

cl_maxpackets 100
in console can help is well.

You can also change the process priority of BlackOps.exe to 'high' and Steam.exe to 'below normal'. Only do this step if you are comfortable with the concept of changing process priorities.

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Ok, thank you for the respond. I will try to do this all tomorrow..hope it works and helps..

But I do wonder.. why the game developers won't do any patches or fixes for the game because there are so many people who have the same problem :(

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new question.. is it safe to raising it 3GHz ?
prons and cons?

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Q6600@3GHz is an easy overclock. Safe so long as you don't raise the voltage to high.
The Pro's = Faster > Extra FPS in games. The cons... none.

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ok well to be honest I have never done that..
can you guide me thro kinds sir please ?
Thank you.

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Lets look and see what we have here.
Asus P5Q Pro.. hmmm (good)
What CPU cooler do you have? hmmm (?)

First get 3dMark2006 or 3dMark 11 or Furmark..
http://downloads.guru3d.com/FurMark-1.8.2-download-2523.html

Benchmark your system to have a starting point of the overall performance.

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Now download this program..
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

This CPU-Z will allow us to see CPU and Memory information.

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Get both of these programs here or find another that can display the CPU Core Temps.
http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

We want to make sure that while testing at max load your internal core temps don't climb
far above 70C ~ 80C Max.

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Reboot the computer and enter the Bios.. (Del) key maybe?

There are 2 ways to overclock this processor.

You can drop the multiplier down to 8x and raise the FSB to 375 = 3GHZ. This way works better for some people if the motherboard can handle it. In some ways this is better because of the higher FSB speed effects everything, but then we have to adjust a lot more options to keep the system stable such as north bridge volts.

I think we should keep this easy and raise the FSB speeds only. FSB @ 333 x 9 = 2997 > 3Ghz. Go into the BIOS and change the frequency from 266 to 333 Mhz.

After that we should disable CPU options that might idle the processor like, C1e, vanderpool, speed step. Disable all the spread spectrum options. Enable Load Line calibration (this keep the cpu voltage stable).

If you want to go higher than 333 then you will need to Disable static read control, and transaction booster. And set the the north bridge to 1.40 volts to keep the system stable near an FSB of 400. At these speeds its better to adjust the CPU voltages manually to avoid cooking the system with over-volts. I personally would not use more than 1.4v ~ 1.5v because it can shorten the life of the system and it gets really hot. But now I'm getting too far ahead.. just try adjust the FSB to 333 first and lets see how it does with a few runs of a benchmark.. (Ran out of time)

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Ok run some testes I think here is what I got so far.
now going to run 3DMark test

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forgot to say that I have 120m sunbeam cpu cooler

and now I need some help so I can go as far as setting it to 333 then enabling "line calibratiin " but what about other stuff ? where I do that ? please help

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Mmm ok I think.. I did it.. and here are the results.. I hope I didn't miss anything in the settings tho.. lol

http://3dmark.com/3dmv/2948932

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That's a nice boost, don't you love overclocking ;)

Just a few remarks I can think of:

The CPU voltage is set to auto. That's not really advised, as the mobo then can increase or decrease it anytime. 1.416 volts is still save I think, but you never know when the mobo decides to raise that all of a sudden. Maybe load-line calibration prevents that, but after all manual settings are always safer than auto. I would set it at 1.35 volts (or even lower) and check for stability, and if there are any errors or crashes increase the voltage by 0.1 and try again. Or look for settings from other users and see what voltage they are using at 3GHz. Remember that lower==better, since temps increase drastically with voltage. Only go higher when the CPU is not stable (gives errors and/or chashes) and never go above the max voltage. (not sure what the max is, but I wouldn't go to 1,5 volts like Tivon mentioned).

About the temps, only load temp (100% CPU load) matters, and you took the screenshots of realtemp when the system was idle, and those temps don't mean much. Although I see a max-temp of 74 degrees there.. is that from when you ran 3dmark? (or, was realtemp running while 3dmark was running and you took the screenshot after that?) If so, the 74 degrees on there is your load temp, and that's a little on the high side but still fine. - again, a lower CPU voltage will fix that. Or a better cooler of course.

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sorry for multi posts but here are the settings that I have now in BIOS.

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So I should go and set CPU to 1.35 volts .. ?

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Ok... so I went and changed Volts to 1.35 also I forgot to to Disable all the spread spectrum options
so I did that...
then I went and run the 2dmark again and got much lower results...
whats wrong.. ?

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So far everything looks good, hmmmmmm.. CPU-Z is displaying 1.416V and Core Temp said VID of 1.3250v. I'm not sure which one to trust, but it's probably 1.416V at the max and that is a little high for just a 3GHz overclock. It's not going to kill anything running like that for now. Q6600's aren't as weak when the volts go through them, but then again it's a good idea to find a lower stable voltage and dial in this overclock. 1.4v or higher is normal for 3.6GHz. You can try 1.3250v and see if that works with a few benchmarks and record the max Core Temps. Let's see if we can make this stable and lower those 74C core temps.

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CPU test 2 dropped a lot.. You changed something that maybe should not have been. Go back and compare the options to what you had the first time around in the BIOS. Then run the test again and see if everything is good again. If it's good then go back into the bios and Adjust the voltages once again..

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Hello Tivon:
I have lowered and now running @ 1.35volt
also I have cleaned my PC up off dust ( so many fans in antec 1200 lol )
also set my CPU fan to max and now my temps are better I think...

so when I run few times the 3dmark so the highest temps under full 100% load were around 55c

but whats killing me that now my CPU result are around only 10k as were the 1st time there were 19k

why... ?

the drop accrued after I Disable all the spread spectrum options

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Far as I can tell everything looks good, but your CPU score did drop in that benchmark.
Turn PCIE and CPU Spread spectrum back on if it was working fine before. I don't see a 19K score?
I would just go back to what you had setup the first time with the Auto settings and then try again one settings at a time.

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Ok I am going now to enable those 2the spread spectrum options back on..

and run the test again..
what do they do btw.. ?

Edit: enabled those 2 back.
run test again.. same about 10k score for CPU..
hmmm what is wrong.. ? lol
maybe my 1st test was wrong ? lol

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Something is not right, because CPU test 1 and 2 have low scores. I can see that the math has changed a tiny bit and perhaps there is a ratio adjusted from something else you have tweaked. The main things to disable are both CPU and PCI spread spectrum in BIOS along with C1E and CPU TM function. And then you enable Load Line Calibration. Leave everything else on [AUTO] other than the CPU voltage. If you get lost and want to try again there is an option to load the defaults.

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Ok. let me go and try and set that...

also are there other result we can compair too from other people who have Q6600 @3GHz and see how much CPU core they have.. ?

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That CPU test score with 54 seems a little high to be honest.. I'm still not sure why that happened or if you can do that again. That part of the test can be cheated a if you have physx/nvidia card. It's clear that you have made 1000 points with the overclock, now I'm just trying to figure out how to get your best score locked in.

Physics Test (CPU Test 2)
The physics test utilizes the AGEIA PhysX library to simulate a complex game world with large amounts of physical content. The PhysX library also allows for an AGEIA physics accelerator (physics processing unit, PPU) to be used, if one is installed.

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Ok so I went and did in BIOS all as you said.
run CPU test again and again getting 10,000 cpu score
maybe that is what it should be for 3GHz cpu... ? lol
but how the hell in the world at first it got around 19000 cpu score.. lol

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Did you change anything else that you can think of in windows? Maybe AMD CCC settings? Honestly with that CPU and Video card, your 10k score isn't that far off. :)

I've never use Vantage, only 3dMark2006 and 2011. But I have a Q6600@3GHZ and 6850 video card that I'll test and see if we are at about the same level.

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nope.. nothing else I have changes mate...
so yeha.. I guess the 10k is what it should be since after alot of googling I see other people have with sim rig same results.. so yeah..
kinda funny tho that at first scan I got that high but must have been some kind of bug I guess... lol

also wonder.. kinda off topic but still wonder.. will that my PC able to run BF3 .. ? haha..

also thank you so much for all the help here you did with me..

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I think that score with the high CPU Test 2 was bugged out.. It's that or you have an Nvidia card hiding inside your system. lol. If you want we can start overclocking the video card, but maybe we should stick to testing the CPU overclock for now.

Have you tried playing CoD Black Ops?

From what I've seen of BF3, maybe on low settings.. I'm starting to think I'm sharing the same boat as you. Maybe I'll need to upgrade again next year to an i7 2600K.

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Ok I played black ops today
I set the game to high and steam to low.
I also got program called fraps to check ingame the FPS
and the game plays much better now!!!
i am getting around 80-95FPS in the game now
sometimes there do happens some hiccups but much less much less..

as to gpu this is what settings i have there so its kinda oc'd already.. right?

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The default speeds are Core Clock: 750 MHz Memory Clock: 900 MHz for your video card. It will run at 500 MHz while not actively playing games. Try 775MHz Core and 950MHz Memory.

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but I think its I moved them there to that position , they were lower before and I unlock this overclock option and after enabled manual fan control as well..

gosh that fan is so laud if its over 50% speed O.o

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I had a 4870 and can tell you 100% that it's 750/900 default speed. The CCC drivers are just weird. Try overclocking it and leave the fan on auto.

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Ok thank you will try it now :)