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GraysonPeddie
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Glad to see some improvements in the forum! :)

Hmm... Methinks my post count's 1,058? :)

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bejohnson
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I think I'm missing entirely.

Let's see what this post says???

bejohnson
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Yep, It says 1 post and I had over 9500. :(

All of my previous posts are missing along with my late wife's including the recipe thread.

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There's so much work ahead to resolve all this, it scares me a little. This forum alone needs a massive amount of attention and then there's the site and the new layout.

I know many of you are getting sick of all the waiting and how all this has turned out. You've been patiently waiting expecting at the end of your wait a finished, polished site. I thank you for your patience and sticking with 3dGameMan through all this. I agree with you, 3dGameMan should have been completely finalized by now. At this point we should be tweaking the minor issues, not major work. But unfortunately, here we are and we have to move forward and get it done ASAP.

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Problem is the posts of some of the people that were permanently banned and had all of their posts removed (example: Whisp[TR]) are back but none of mine, Brandi's and some other people in good standing are present and honestly I am offended at what seems to be a major slap in the face to a Contributing Member. Getting the post database correct should be one of the top priorities before going public even with an Alpha version.

Something that I learned in broadcasting long ago was that an extended period "off the air" killed the ratings for days or weeks. The return of the members to this forum after such an extended downtime is going to be tenuous at best. People move on and change habits. The forum can ill afford to PO anyone as the effect can be cumulative.

I would venture to say that the traffic on the entire sight is less than 25% of its old forum days.

I don't believe there was anything so wrong with the databases on the old forum that extended database maintenance and clean-up could not of fixed. The databases for 3DGm could not be nearly as complex or extensive as the databases say for the operation of the Turner television and cable networks here in Atlanta or even the agricultural and production databases for the farm operations on my father-in-law's operations in Iowa. Databases need weekly maintenance and a server with enough muscle to run effectively. Without either of those the site will eventually be in bad shape again.

Have you considered moving to a commercial server such as an IBM Blade Server. http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/bladecenter/hardware/chassis/bladee/index.html

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Yea, it's obvious that this forum downtime and the state of the site over the last many months has affected visits. Maybe not dramatically, but enough to now have me concerned and thus the need to have the forum and site back ASAP.

For those that have given up and left 3GM, well, there's not much I can do about that except apologize. Those members are always welcome back though.

As for commercial IBM class stuff, it's very expensive and I'm not made of money, sadly.

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Ha, it'll take lots of manpower to arm with that server. Think of how much annually it takes to maintain it.

d3uS2029
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Rod, if i win the lottery i will personally give you a check for those blade servers! they look sweet. Anyways, Maybe starting fresh is a good thing??

Administrator, im ALWAYS logged in so that shouldn't be the problem. It seems to have picked up this morning. Is it possible that it was slow due to traffic? That wouldnt be a good thing since there are probably 10% of the users on 3gm now compared to before.

also, another thing i would like?? quoting posts and multi-quoting posts :D

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Yea...quoting and multi quoting is nice

Salavat23
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I think its crucial to first get the post counts back. That would give more initiative for older members to start posting again. That would get the ball rolling.

Also, can we not use code tags in the test field? Will we have a button(s) to do it for us?

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Zach has informed me that there will be major changes happening over the next week or so. This will include a new site layout & theme as well as a fully functional integrated forum, plus a bunch of other tweaks.

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Rather unfortunate news Rodney, as it takes only a few minutes to install a vBulletin and 20-30min to read from a mysqldump.

I strongly agree with bejohnson. I cannot possibly see any reason why one would think that there was something wrong with the old one. There are many larger forums running off of vBulletin, and there are many companies that have even larger and more complex databases. Hell, I'm very doubtful that Google would never trash one of their databases and go with something that takes weeks, hell months to configure.

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robodude666, I believe we can all agree on the unreasonable amount of time it's taken to finish this site. I'm none to happy about it and that's why the push is now on to finish it once and for all. I mean, we just can't have an unfinished site forever, or have the site in Alpha or Beta for months/years.

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Google does... lol ;) Major updates coming for beta testers this week including new layout and theme (yes robo, full width forums... ;)

d3uS2029
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nice, cant wait to see it.

Hopefully user profiles are included in that.

How do some of you guys have an avatar and signature??? i cant figure it out

Salavat23
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Yeah, I miss my "Signature under construction" signature.

robodude666
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No idea... zeek mentioned there was some corruption when transferring the database structure over from vB to Drupal's Forum Module. It seems my account was one of the few that remained nearly intact.

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Can't you just put the forums back the way they were before?

At least they were functional and more user-friendly than not.

Less money too. Just restore the old and let us use it while people test and plan out (and pay for) new forums when the time / resources / money is available.

I miss the forum visits of old...

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I hope one of the tweaks made is the speed of the site, wow its SLOW! I wasnt around during the days of its former glory so I can not comment on anything other than what I notice now.

1. SLOW loading, thats a HUGE problem
2. Wasted space on layout for widescreens
3. User input/profile/sigs/edit/login, etc. not very user friendly

I have faith though that Rodney will come through so I'll stick it out. I like his reviews and advice to much to leave so soon.

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Sub, as Zach said before, the old forum has to go due to lots of security flaws and the maintanence is horrifying. But I hope the old image itself would remain intact so that we could return to our community-style, the way it was before November. Although it's unlikely as the forum is going to have an extreme makeover for the themes and Rod has a new logo comming up.

Just a clear-up of the development.

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Security and Maintenance with vBulletin is top notch. Again, if they were horrifying then [H], XS, and every other god damn forum on the internet wouldn't use vBulletin. Experience, or lack there of, would of course make it a terrifying to work with. But, nevertheless it's a perfectly fine bulletin board system. Zach's primary argument is the requirement of integrating the website and forums together.

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WOW, can't find anything. Guess I will be reading a lot, to see if my issues have been covered.

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Looking at most peoples concerns, nothing more than selfish egotistical poor manners wanting 10000 bragging rites.
meh, put mine at 1, as long as I can find previous posts with a title search, then a arbitrary number is quite useless.

edit; however, sadly I expected exactly that.
Sorry Rodney, that the foolishness is quite aggravating. A good nights rest, and then put everybody at 1 million post count....lol

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Post count is not only a means of bragging rights. It details your seniority in the forum, and it fuels your initiative to keep posting.

Easy for you to say BCR that you don't care about post counts when yours was kept intact. lol

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We all know we want our original posts back ;)

I have added some additional caching features. Please let me know your experiences. Thanks.

mimart7
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Still slow when loading. Both the main page, forum page, and when going from one topic to another.

3dGameMan
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Yes, it's still a little slow for me as well, but much much faster then it was.

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I never look at post counts on any forums I belong to. Why? Junior/senior member or high/low post count is irrelevant when it comes to knowledge or truth being conveyed. Bragging rights "cuz my post count is bigger than yours" is about all it has ever boiled down to. How accurate the information in your post is my primary concern. Even with this post, everyone has an oppinion just like everyone has a hole in their butt and just like oppinions they all stink... including mine.

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Everyone is missing the point. The post count is just one of the indicators of a major problem.

In my case none of my previous posts are available. They are missing as if they had been purposely removed. There were lots of different information and entertainment value in those 9500+ posts. I was also a Contributing Member in good standing and had never been banned.

At the moment there are at least three ex-members' posts with intact post counts showing up. These three ex-members were permanently banned and all of their posts removed because of major infractions up to and including making personal threats against Rodney. If those peoples' accounts can reappear intact after being banned as they were and members in good standing have basically all of their work thrown away with little interest in making their problems right then this forum has much bigger problems and issues than servers, hackers, format and speed issues. This forum has major issues with core values and proper treatment and respect of valued, long-time members. If it continues to ignore the problems with existing members' accounts and allows permanently banned members' accounts to be restored fully then I guarantee that a lot of the older members whose input and work help make this forum what it was will never come back and that will be the end of this forum as we know it.

To be honest, the forum has been on a downward spiral for various reasons over the past two years. I hate to say this but I think what we have here is the beginning of the end of a once great cyber community.

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For those that are not familiar with the vBulletin software check out the following features link: http://www.vbulletin.com/index.php?do=features

Why would anyone wish to reinvent the wheel so to speak when there is a full featured, fully integrated, PROVEN product available in vBulletin version 4 Publishing Suite for $250 for the upgrade. HELL!, if it's the cost of the software upgrade, I'll pay for it.

Rodney, If the whiz bang software that Zeek is trying to develop is turning into a time and resources nightmare maybe it's time to cut your losses and punt.

Re-establish the forum with vB4 and put the time and effort into a proven system that has served you for years. With proper attention and upkeep the vB4 solution cannot be beat. I know of at least a dozen different forums, public and private, running vB4 with no problems. One is a private forum for a Fortune top 10 company. That forum is so large it makes 3GM look like a old BBS.