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Razear
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I prefer the forum layout on the RodneyReynolds.com site because it's more legible and pages load quicker.

nilzxx
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If I may make a suggestion, I really cannot stand the ads on the left hand side. I know ads are important in order to finance 3GM, but right now they take away so much valuable space. I don't mind ads on top or below, but right now they are really annoying.

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Use NoScript or ABP to get rid of them. I had 1 on the left, and I just blocked it with NoScript.

mimart7
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The forums seem to be a little more responsive. There is a noticeable difference in lag.

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i like it, but having sigs would be cool, and the site is kindof slow, but im sure it will speed up in the future, the site just now got up im not really expecting it to be fast yet
other than that, everything is fine

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Thanks... Also I know it's been said before but this old link needs to redirect to the new forums.

http://www.3dgameman.com/forums/index.php

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Attention, ladies and gentlemen, I'd have an important announcement to make: R.I.P. 3DGameMan Forums

This "software" is absolutely stripped. There are NO features whatsoever. This is absolute blasphemy. 3dgameman was my favorite forums, of all time and you guys killed it nearly instantly.

I mean, seriously? what the bloody hell gives? There are NO FEATURES whatsoever.

Where's my control panel?
PMs?
notifications?
profile pages?
MY POST COUNT?!

I won't even mention everything that's missing, as it would turn into a book.

This "forums" system is nothing more than a personal blog with comments, under a thread-based skin, aka BS.

Congrats, Rodney, I pronounce 3GM dead. Not only was it a stupid move to kill a perfectly functioning vBulletin, one of the most advanced bulletin board systems ever made, but it was an even stupider move to create a personal blog and DRIVE traffic AWAY from 3DGameMan.com. I mean, seriously? Just because ONE guy asks you to read jokes doesn't mean you need to do it. If you want to make cutsie vlogs, go on youtube. There's plenty of shit like that there. I honestly can't imagine how one could think creating a personal blog and moving majority of their content from their primary site to a secondary site is a wise idea. I'm not even going to mention the videos, as that's a different topic altogether.

While I may sound harsh, I'm only doing it because I loveD 3GM and am really sad to see it deteriorate into what it has become.

P.S. Alexa slipped from 70k to 95k

P.S.S. Most threads have:

* warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/vhosts/3dgameman.com/httpdocs/modules/taxonomy/taxonomy.module on line 1252.
* warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/vhosts/3dgameman.com/httpdocs/sites/all/modules/emfield/emfield.rss.inc on line 13.
* warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/vhosts/3dgameman.com/httpdocs/modules/taxonomy/taxonomy.module on line 1252.
* warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/vhosts/3dgameman.com/httpdocs/sites/all/modules/emfield/emfield.rss.inc on line 13.
* warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/vhosts/3dgameman.com/httpdocs/modules/taxonomy/taxonomy.module on line 1252.
* warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/vhosts/3dgameman.com/httpdocs/sites/all/modules/emfield/emfield.rss.inc on line 13.
* warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/vhosts/3dgameman.com/httpdocs/modules/taxonomy/taxonomy.module on line 1252.
* warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/vhosts/3dgameman.com/httpdocs/sites/all/modules/emfield/emfield.rss.inc on line 13.
* warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/vhosts/3dgameman.com/httpdocs/modules/taxonomy/taxonomy.module on line 1252.
* warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/vhosts/3dgameman.com/httpdocs/sites/all/modules/emfield/emfield.rss.inc on line 13.
* warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/vhosts/3dgameman.com/httpdocs/modules/taxonomy/taxonomy.module on line 1252.
* warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/vhosts/3dgameman.com/httpdocs/sites/all/modules/emfield/emfield.rss.inc on line 13.
* warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/vhosts/3dgameman.com/httpdocs/modules/taxonomy/taxonomy.module on line 1252.
* warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/vhosts/3dgameman.com/httpdocs/sites/all/modules/emfield/emfield.rss.inc on line 13.

at the top. Add a few is_array checks before said foreach loop on line 1252.

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@Tivon: Yeah, I said it earlier that we may not see many come back because those who have it favourited, or remember the address will get an error when they try to visit the forums.

Robo, I agree with you 100%. I feel like I am posting youtube comments, not actually using a forum. vBulletin works, and is ideally suited for forums. I can't format text without manually typing in the codes, I can't do much of anything. Is there an example of what this forum would look like fully developed? (like a link to another similar forum?).

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Salavat, the best example would be the official Drupal Forums. Drupal is, of course, the CMS and Forums module (note, module, not actual full-blown bulletin board) used by 3dGameMan as of v3-Alpha.

You'll see, very quickly that even the official forum on Drupal's site is very featureless. It's basically a thread-based comment system to a blog post. It has other features, like profile pages, etc, which 3dGameMan also has except z33k didn't include any links whilst in a rush to get the site out.

That, of course, being because the 3dGameMan "forum" is has a customized skin to make it feel more like a threaded forum to fit with the main 3dGameMan wabi theme.

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*GONG*

This is not going to be our permanent platform. We shall fight to live until Zach gets us our goodies.

Plus, I've seen a screwed up forum software provider worser than this. But the whole team of RazeTheWorld is expecting to move to their own platform soon.

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I understand that some of you are displeased with the way the site/forum has turned out. But Zach and I agreed that the best long term solution was a totally integrated one. While I'm no web design expert and rely on Zach, I'm trusting that this site and forum will be acceptably finished very within a week or so.

The site and forum has been in an Alpha stage much longer than I thought it would be and it needs to be finished. Zach is well aware of this and he has been trying to find the time to work on it. I hope he can find the time required now to get this done ASAP. Otherwise, we are going to lose valued members and I fear we already have.

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while i understand what position Rodney and Zach are in right now...i wont lie and say i like this new forum style...

3gm reading jokes is more for rodneyreynolds.com i would hope that stays off the new site.

3gm forums were BY FAR!! the best forum i have been a part of. How many forums are on the net? millions.... If i were Rodney i would be ashamed to let something go like that...sad to see it go

i dont get why it had to change

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Rodney, I am very sorry to say this then, but other than checking up on this thread from time to time will not be returning to this forums, or website ever again unless things start to turn for the better. And, after the recent steep decline lately I find that very unlikely.

Unfortunately though, there were far easier ways of accomplishing this "integration" than by dumping vBulletin and going with a cheap "forum" module. vBulletin is one of the most popular systems available, and don't be surprised if other people had the idea of integrating it into a CMS (Content Management System, i.e Drupal, Joomla, etc.) before.

In fact, there are two very popular open-source projects that accomplish this. First of all, there is vBDrupal which is a fork of the Drupal project that integrates Drupal into the vBulletin database and shares user accounts. Second, there is a Module for Drupal called Drupal vB which does a similar task of moving vBulletin into Drupal's Database. Both of which are simple to setup, and give you the ability to maintain a feature-rich vBulletin Bulletin Board System whilst using a pre-made CMS such as Drupal.

I also previously offered my help, years ago, to rewrite the 3DGameMan website into a more functional one whilst increasing integration into the forums. Both you, Rodney, and Zach declined the offer... Zach went onto ignoring everything I said about custom software and used Drupal as a platform for v3. While it's not a bad option it will increase headaches in the future, such as maintenance and additional feature growth.

In either case, Good Night and Good Luck. I pronounce the 3dGameMan forums, and potentially the site, dead unless steps are taken to revert to a feature-rich bulletin board system such as vBulletin, or hell even IPB or phpBB.

-robodude666

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Don't leave us ;_;

lmao

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OK, to clear things up, if anyone is feeling uncomfortable with this temp platform, those of you may feel free to take another break from here until the final works are up and operating. Already, it seems that I can't get to the user CP as robo said.

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I don't think we should get ahead of ourselves just yet robodude666. Give him a few weeks and lets see if all this wait was worth it. But seriously I agree that at this point things are very limited. All I can do is reply, edit, and delete posts in the forum. I don't even think reply really works...

In the Beta the forum will at least look a little better. Seems to be wider at least and the ads are on the right hand side.

What happened to that top bar? Is it just this account that is missing it?

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While announcing death may be premature, I'm only stating it to stress the need for proactive actions to prevent it.

I've used Drupal and its forum system in the past, and know that it is as limiting as what you see in front of you.

I know theres a user panel on 3dgameman.com/user but its very limiting also.. Nothing useful there other than editing basic profile settings.

In either case, vBulletin was far superior to this POS and it's sad to see a downgrade happen to a what, once, was a very popular community.

As a note, vBulletin also sells a form of their bulletin board software with an included (intergrated) CMS system for content management that is more advanced than some of the "portal" hacks available for free.

-robodude666

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Too much horizontal real estate being taken up. While I can see the need for ads, I prefer forums to be full width. Sometimes I just don't have the horizontal resolution to spare for ads and messaging.

Perhaps limiting the ads to the heading and footer areas of the page?

Also those of us that are CMs and had the perk of larger avatars will be getting the short end of the stick with the postbits to the left rather than across the top of he messages.

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Layout, which includes ads is not finalized yet. I may opt to have ads embedded between forum posts horizontally.

Great to see so many comments and suggestions, good and bad ;) Keep em coming.

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I know some of you mentioned that you find the site and forum very slow (as do I), so we are investigating this right now. If the current host can't handle the stress of this site, fix it or offer an acceptable speed, I'll be moving the site and forum elsewhere. So rest assured that we are trying to get this site and forum up to par ASAP. I don't like having 3GM in this state any more than you do.

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We just want it to work properly. From the above posts many here are upset about missing features. which will hopefully be back in place with some new and improved ones.

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My recommendations because, while I may sound bitchy, I don't want the 3GM Forum to die:

- Switch to vbDrupal at the least; it features the power of vBulletin with the CMS of Drupal (saves a few hundred bucks from using the CMS vBulletin provides). It also uses the vBulletin user tables for smooth integration.

- Use a 85-90% width design for the forums.

- No ads on the side of the forums. Top, bottom banners... sure. Hell, even inject in between posts. But nothing on the sides. We might as well go back to fullscreen 4:3 monitors if our extra widescreen pixel real estate is being eaten by ads.

- Move to media template, as your current provider is obviously impossibly slow.

And, for proof that it is possible to run a high-traffic community off of vBulletin just look at [H] and XS.

Good Luck,
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robodude666, Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. Please keep them coming.

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To everybody:

The reason the old forums had to go was because they were killing the server. There is 6 years worth of spam bots, malicious code attempts and other stupid stuff that caused it's demise.

Robo:

PMs? - PM is almost ready for you guys,

Notifications? - Almost ready with email notification

profile pages? - Again almost ready, adding current rig etc to profiles along with a number of other interactive improvements

MY POST COUNT?! - Should be making it's way back to display. You haven't lost anything... ;) It's just the little things that seem to scare people.

Thanks for you suggestions about the vB -> Drupal forks and projects. Please take into consideration that I have already tested the waters on many options. I am not working under the guise of whatever looks easiest. I have actually tried to implement both solutions but both have had issues interpreting the old degraded database. vBdrupal is actually a separate fork of Drupal and does not get the timely security releases that the main project gets. It also does not allow many of the options that we require going forward.

Robo, I have never ignored you or any other member of our community. I am sorry you feel that way.

This is all about time and dedication. While we could pay $xxxxx for somebody to finish everything with a large staff, there is not budget. The state of 3GM has been an unfortunate case of bad timing including loss of sponsored server co-location, dos attacks and many other issues including the lack of stability in the forums.

We are moving forward. It will be a better place. I promise. :)

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Doesn't that look so much better?

3dGameMan
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robodude666, moving banners around so it's more forum like will not be a problem.

Everyone, please remember that this forum is very unfinished ATM, but this will soon change :)

nilzxx
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Yes, my main concerns are the small width caused by the ad and the featureless forum platform. The width that robodude posted there would be excellent.

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Don't worry folks, we'll give you most of what you want. You can never get everything you want, from my experience anyway. LOL

We'll keep everyone updated as required. Please keep those suggestions & comments coming :)

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Tivon: Fixed

Performance should be a bit better and have added the post counts. Please note that while the site is caching a number of features, it might take a few more seconds but seem faster after that.